Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT July 19-23, 2010 (1711-1715, Guest Strips)
raoullefere:
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 21 Jul 2010, 10:48 ---The way I've heard it, there's nothing special about Charlemagne or Gengis Khan; we're all descendants of the Julio-Claudian dynasty as well, and nearly everyone in the Middle East is a descendant of Menes, and so on.
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Charles is just an example, Lurker. Anyone who's ever done a lengthy family tree knows about pedigree collapse (a.k.a. implex). Charlemagne and Genghis Khan are simply well-known examples of the MRCA (or at least the best-known such) for certain large groups of people. Probably a quite a lot of us are also descended from some dude named "Wan of Ker", too, but he never made the history headlines.
Besides, the way I heard it, "Menes" is probably more of a title than an actual person; in other words, a case similar to that LeeC is talking about for Temüjin, that is, a name has been placed on some genetic MRCA factor.
Near Lurker:
It's a title in the same way "Caesar" was a title; it's allegedly the name of the first emperor of a united Egypt, so it became a title.
Akima:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 21 Jul 2010, 13:28 ---Oh, there was something special about Genghis. His holdings stretched across most of Asia and into "Europe" (OK, Turkey, so it's debatable if that's Europe).
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And he's the only ruler to have been portrayed by John Wayne. :-D
Kugai:
--- Quote from: akronnick on 21 Jul 2010, 13:56 ---KHAAAAAAANNNNNN1!!!!!!!
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I love that moment.
We've seen Kirk angry, seen him really annoyed and seen him slightly pissed off
But I think that's the first time we've seen true, unadulterated, unfettered "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck!!" rage out of him.
LeeC:
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 21 Jul 2010, 16:12 ---It's a title in the same way "Caesar" was a title; it's allegedly the name of the first emperor of a united Egypt, so it became a title.
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Um Wasnt the name of the guy Pharaoh Narmar or Menes back in 3000BC? Some believe it was the same person but just referred differently depending on the time/place).
Caesar came from the Roman dictator (not emperor) Gauis Julius Caesar. The first emperor, Octavian (Later Augustus Caesar) took Caesar as his name because he was adopted in Julius's will. When Augustus named Tiberius as his succesor and adopted him, he got the name too. By the time Claudius assumed the throne it became a name for being emperor. The word Emperor came from the latin word Imperator meaning "Person who Orders/command (root word imperare meaning order/command, suffix -tor means a person)" and was title usually given to military commanders.
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