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WCDT - 6-10 September 2010 (1746-1750)
benji:
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--- Quote from: Odin on 09 Sep 2010, 10:43 ---Marten claims he had girlfriends before, there is no actual proof of this
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Do you simply not believe him? After the arc in which his previous girlfriend came into Coffee of Doom?
If you allow that much rewriting of the strip, why should you, for instance, believe Faye's story about her dad?
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That's Jeph's big finally. Everyone lied about everything. Faye's really heiress to a wealthy and kindly millionaire, but didn't want her friends to judge. Hanners is really the head of a mob syndicate and is playing crazy so she can plead insanity if she ever gets caught. Pint size is really a small child in a cheap plastic costume. Marten doesn't believe that a single peace of the worthwhile music has been released since Steven Still's 1970 solo album.
pwhodges:
Marten's ex comes in here; then he tells the story over a number of strips following, until Faye throws a jug of milk over her.
Odin:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 09 Sep 2010, 12:08 ---Marten's ex comes in here; then he tells the story over a number of strips following, until Faye throws a jug of milk over her.
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Ah, I didn't start reading until the mid-500s.
You may want to read that story again, Marten is definitely glossing over some assholish behavior himself by refusing to take a hint when his ex had broken up with him (but didn't have the spine to flat out tell him to move back to California at the time).
Actually, that whole arc demonstrates my point. Mentally healthy people don't assault complete strangers on the say-so of one of their friends.
Take a look at #257, where Marten starts talking about the hints he was getting and Faye's horrifically insane over-reaction in #257 or so.
Lost Coastlines:
--- Quote from: Karilyn on 09 Sep 2010, 05:19 ---I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't understand that there are types of abuse that doesn't involve physically hitting a person.
It actually scares me a little, cause that's sorta the way that abusers talk "Oh, it's not abuse, because I didn't hit her, I just call her a stupid bitch because she is one." "Oh it isn't abuse because I didn't hit her hard enough for her to get a bruise" "Oh it isn't abuse because she stays with me and if I was abusing her she'd leave" or whatever other excuse people come up with as to why their particular brand of abuse isn't actually abuse. Hell, if you watch TV and the News enough, you'll see men who beat a woman TO DEATH, and they are going to jail for the rest of their lives, and they still insist that their beating their wife to death wasn't "really abuse, because..."
Now I'm not saying necessarily that Dora's ex-boyfriends beat her, or verbally abused her. But treating someone as a vagina with a body attached to it is still abuse. You're devaluing them as a person as much as the standard abuser who calls someone a "worthless cunt" all the time.
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It is good that you acknowledge you're going out on a limb, because you are wrong. The most I'm willing to personally divulge is that I've worked with abused (both physically and emotionally) women and children in the past and still volunteer when I have time. I fully concede that emotional abuse can be just as damaging as physical abuse. No argument there. But given my experience, I get annoyed when people throw that word around so loosely.
Near Lurker:
Marten has had at least one girlfriend before, but that was some pretty damn "Nice Guy" behavior with Faye in the first 500 strips. I'm going to have to agree that he's made some personal growth in that regard since Dora.
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