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Inlander:
They kind of crapped the bed a little bit with the finale, but in a way that's unavoidable in a show in which one of the chief pleasures has been seeing the pieces of the puzzle fall into place so slowly and intricately: when the puzzle's finally been put together it's bound to be a bit of a come-down (though the show didn't help itself with that ridiculous reveal of Andy as a secret agent/worst bodyguard ever). I have to say that I watched the entire first season in about the space of a week, finishing with three episodes back-to-back last night, so my experience of it would naturally differ from people who watched it week to week, but I came to really enjoy spending time inside API and I'd even go so far as to say that in the space of only one season Rubicon built itself the best ensemble of characters on any current show that isn't Mad Men. In fact the character-based/workplace material in the show was clearly the strongest part of the show (although with the final couple of episodes the workplace stuff folded into the main plot in a pretty neat way, I thought). If they only make one season I won't particularly miss the conspiracy stuff, though I did appreciate how refreshingly low-stakes the conspiracy was (basically just a bunch of guys trying to make lots and lots of money) - but I will miss spending time with the characters.

TheFuriousWombat:
Thing is, there wasn't really a big reveal to the slow burning puzzle. It was pretty obvious long before the end exactly what was going on and while we didn't know what the next orchestrated event was basically until it happened, we knew that there was a business cabal profiting off disaster and Spangler was involved and they were eliminating people dangerous to their project so none of that was particularly exciting once people started saying it. It didn't make sense that they would suddenly give up after one failed attempt at killing Will. Too much money was at stake for them to drop it all over one dude. They would have just hired another hitman. Their retreat b/c of that setback seemed really implausible to me. Also, the scene where the other evil business guys decide to oust Spangler was HILARIOUS. Where the hell were they supposed to be where there was a table in a pool of light inside a giant and otherwise pitch black room?? I literally laughed out loud when I saw that. I'm being a little harsh, I liked the show but I was never totally thrilled by it.

KvP:

--- Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 18 Oct 2010, 21:28 ---It didn't make sense that they would suddenly give up after one failed attempt at killing Will. They would have just hired another hitman. Their retreat b/c of that setback seemed really implausible to me.
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It makes perfect sense. The reason they deigned to kill Rhumor was because her death would not arouse general suspicion. As for Will,

--- Quote from: KvP on 13 Oct 2010, 20:01 ---They obviously fear Will, and if he can link them to acts of terror / treason and he's progressed to a point where he's practically untouchable (and I'd say he has, now that there are two other API employees that would need to be bumped off as well, and there's no way that a company full of people who discern patterns for a living wouldn't pick up on that)
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Past the third episode or so, Rubicon existed in a world that was more or less realistic. The conspirators are not omniscient and they are actively financing and directing terrorist attacks on US soil. I don't know about you, but if I were involved in such a business I would cut my losses at the first sign of trouble. Better to live with my gains than get greedy and end up getting a firing squad for high fucking treason.

As for the Conspiracy Room, looked like a Star Chamber of sorts.

TheFuriousWombat:
Guess that makes sense.

As for the Star Chamber comparison, that makes it even goofier if anything. Nobody actually plots evil schemes in places like that. I felt like I was watching an Austin Powers outtake.

Tom:
Episodes 3-12 had some the best moments of TV I've seen this year. This show deserves another chance more than Weeds doesn't need another episode. I'm sure the more goofy stuff was the result of tying up the messy leftover threads from the shows previous path. It has more room now to be Bromell's Rubicon.

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