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Inlander:
And how!

yellowfoliage:
Way to talk about Rubicon, guys.

(Although Rome was pretty good)

For those of us who have been watching: Team Kale or Team Truxton?

Vuk:
It's a little slow so far, but Breaking Bad and Mad Men were both kind of like that when the started out, and now they're both incredible. I think any good show takes a bit to get up to speed, so it'll be cool following this if it continues (which it should, since it's on AMC).

Tom:
I'm reaaly digging this show, I'm at the point now where I want the next episode now. It took me longer to get into Mad Men than Rubicon.

I think we'll get a second season of this but I'm not sure it'll be as good as this one. If they avoid the conspiracy angle and focus on how the job effects the people who do it then I see this show having legs like Mad Men

KvP:
Yeah I'm not sure how to feel about where the critical plot is heading (although interviews with the showrunner seem to suggest that there are some big twists ahead), especially considering how the nature of the conspiracy has changed. The guy who created the show was kicked off after the pilot was filmed over "creative differences", and you can basically tell why - in the pilot they apparently engineer a train crash to kill one guy, and in later episodes the conspiracy seems, at least on the surface, to be a relatively small-potatoes affair, it's white collar crime crossed with espionage, basically. They don't seem to have the grand Deus Ex-style plan or frightening power they apparently had in the pilot. There are apparently other minor details that have changed from the pilot to subsequent episodes.

As a matter of fact, if you're curious at all about Rubicon I would advise starting with the second episode and go from there. It takes until the third or fourth episode to gain steam, but The Shield this ain't. It's a meticulous show.

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