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WCT 20-24 Sep 10
tut21:
My guess is that Sven will act like a perfect gentleman, since he's not interested in Hanners, but she will flip out and cause some minor incident when her anxieties kick in mid-date. So it won't go smoothly despite Sven's best efforts. Yet despite the setback the date will earn him a tiny bit more trust from Dora.
Heliphyneau:
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--- Quote from: Border Reiver on 19 Sep 2010, 15:58 ---Now who wants to spend some time with the sergeant-major marching up and down the square? Unless you've got anything else to do?
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I'm too busy pining for the fjords, you military fairy.
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START AGAIN! *waves arm*
From last week's thread:
--- Quote from: Schmorgluck on 19 Sep 2010, 03:49 ---Unless I missed something in the conversation, it seems that no one considered the most ironic possible twist in the events to come: Sven falling for Hannelore. I mean completely, head over heels, totally in love. Given Sven's past, ending up in a relationship which is bound to be platonic for any foreseeable future would be hilarous, in a somewhat gritty way.
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I agree that this is possible, and would be epic for angst-mining, whether Hanners reciprocates those feelings (despite being unable to act on them) or not. On the other hand, this could just end up as some light plataonic fun for both of them, merely forcing their friends to re-evaluate how they see each of them. I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Hanners tell Marigold about all this, actually.
--- Quote from: lisavilisa on 19 Sep 2010, 19:49 ---Anyone else notice that the hands are beautiful in today's strip?
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Yes, actually -- Sven's hand in panel 3 and Hanner's linked hands in panel 4 in particular.
raoullefere:
--- Quote from: Akima on 19 Sep 2010, 21:02 ---
--- Quote from: zagraf on 19 Sep 2010, 20:33 ---Hanners reads Cathy?
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Well, I suppose someone has to...
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Not for much longer.
--- Quote from: Akima on 19 Sep 2010, 21:02 ---The perspective looks a little strange to me in this strip. Compare Dora's height with Hanners' in the various panels. In the third panel especially, Dora is closer to the "camera" than Hanners, but looks decidedly shorter. In the Hanners Fhtagn strip they look much the same height.
Given the effect of Hanners' voice in today's strip, and the EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE one, you have to wonder if she has some sort of sonic superpower like Black Canary. Yes boys*, feel free to imagine Hanners in boots, fishnets, black leotard and biker jacket... There's no need to thank me.
*I suppose Tai would say I was being heteronormative...
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I got the same impression about Hanners' outbursts, If I worked with her, no one would have to worry about her snapping and killing everyone. I'd grease her first.
--- Quote from: pendrake on 19 Sep 2010, 21:19 ---.[snip]
4. Not entirely certain of why Hanners actually needs Dora's permission to go out on a date with Sven, but it is always heart-warming to see how much Dora looks out for Hanners and how much Hanners looks up to Dora.[snip]
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Because, besides being a squealing psycho, Hanners both is considerate of others and doesn't care for conflict. A date with Sven's not worth a hullaballoo to her.
I'd still have to kill her. My headaches and those screeches could not coexist.
And now—the Fish-slapping Dance! (dibs on the big-ass fish)
foolsguinea:
Jeph, why are you being so mean to Dora?
Oh, for comedy.
Moxie:
--- Quote from: pendrake on 19 Sep 2010, 21:19 ---3. After Dora's line of, "I...this is against my better judgement," I now think the Hannelore+Sven date will not end well. Dora does have pretty good judgement, most of the time. [P.S. ADD: Though even bad dates can sometimes have positive results for life experiences.]
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This is kinda what I was thinking. Good or bad, if nothing else, I'm hoping this is a character growth moment for both Sven and Hanners. Potentially Dora too.
--- Quote from: pendrake on 19 Sep 2010, 21:19 ---4. Not entirely certain of why Hanners actually needs Dora's permission to go out on a date with Sven, but it is always heart-warming to see how much Dora looks out for Hanners and how much Hanners looks up to Dora.
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This really bothered me. A lot. I get that Dora's got issues, and wants to look out for her friends, and Hanners doesn't want conflict and respects Dora and such, but honestly. We're talking about adults here who, issues or not, should be able to make these choices. This shouldn't relate to Dora's issues with Sven because Hanners met Dora first - she can't be accused of using Dora (though I do see how Dora could still construe it as such).
I think that Dora actually doesn't have a lot of respect for Hanners' ability to "be an adult" or "make adult choices", or whatever. This first showed up when Hanners was gonna go comfort Marigold and Dora was all - "uh no, I think I can handle this better than you", despite Hanners being (apparently) better friends with Marigold.
I mean, sure Hanners doesn't have nearly the relationship experience Dora does, but I think Dora equates that to Hanners entire understanding of the world. Meaning, she thinks that because Hanners is somewhere in the teenager stage of wanting to know about love/sex/etc, Hanners is also in the young child/teenager stage of understanding the world) But Hanners was able to survive with Dora-mom before, and she's shown an awful lot of insight into her friends, and general people dynamics (such as when she called out Marten and Steve).
I think Dora doesn't give Hanners nearly enough credit (as well as giving herself more credit than she perhaps deserves) and on top of that, is so jealous of her brother that she can hardly accept that Hanners is making this choice on her own. Interestingly enough, the way Dora keeps trying to be a mom to Hanners (and to a lesser extent, Marigold) makes me wonder if it's a reaction to her own upbringing - she sees enough of her own naivety in them, and is trying to give them the advice she wished her mother would have given her.
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