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WCT 20-24 Sep 10
raoullefere:
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--- Quote from: merv on 20 Sep 2010, 00:21 ---I don't think Dora is uncomfortable with the Sven/Hanners date because of her "issues" with him. I think it's because of his previous horrible treatment of Faye and the awkwardness that followed.
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--- Quote from: Tergon on 20 Sep 2010, 01:38 ---Sven has a long-running history of basically ruining the lives of the ladies he dates, to the extent where Dora has quite explicitly told him, "Do not date any of my friends!" The one time she let him break that rule, well, we all know what happened with Faye.
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Wait, what? Sven treated Faye horribly and ruined Faye's life? Really? From where I'm standing, it looks like Faye not only got over some of those roadblock issues she was having with intimacy, she also grew enough to be able to start to date Angus. Even Sven himself gives the appearance of trying to better himself. It was a really bad situation but so far we've seen positive growth from it.
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I think they mean from the characters' perspective, not ours, the god-like observers. We may grow from adversity, but we don't much like experiencing it, and our friends usually don't much enjoy seeing us go through it, either—the real ones, anyway. Dr. Corrine might point out Sven was 'good' for Faye (that's her job), but I doubt Dora, Marten, or even Penelope are going to anytime soon, even if any of them believe it (as Marten might). Years from now, maybe, but not now.
Border Reiver:
--- Quote from: raoullefere on 20 Sep 2010, 10:58 ---I think they mean from the characters' perspective, not ours, the god-like observers.
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I try not to think of myself this way - gives me more of an ego than I already have.
On the other hand, many of the comments made concerning the goings on in this strip tend to come from people who have forgotten that we have the abiltiy to know all and see all wrt the characters, and have the benefits of not being emotionally engaged in the immediacy of the moment when it comes to making a response. Those can be as amusing as the comic.
The corrallary is the armchair quarterback or general making the call on what should have been done on Monday morning now that they've got the ability to know exactly what the other side has and how they will use it. Lots more challenging to make the call when you're knee deep in the mud, you're the one who has to make the decision and you've got seconds to do it - and if you get it wrong then may they have mercy on you.
Moxie:
--- Quote from: raoullefere on 20 Sep 2010, 10:58 ---
--- Quote from: Moxie on 20 Sep 2010, 10:45 ---
--- Quote from: merv on 20 Sep 2010, 00:21 ---I don't think Dora is uncomfortable with the Sven/Hanners date because of her "issues" with him. I think it's because of his previous horrible treatment of Faye and the awkwardness that followed.
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--- Quote from: Tergon on 20 Sep 2010, 01:38 ---Sven has a long-running history of basically ruining the lives of the ladies he dates, to the extent where Dora has quite explicitly told him, "Do not date any of my friends!" The one time she let him break that rule, well, we all know what happened with Faye.
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Wait, what? Sven treated Faye horribly and ruined Faye's life? Really? From where I'm standing, it looks like Faye not only got over some of those roadblock issues she was having with intimacy, she also grew enough to be able to start to date Angus. Even Sven himself gives the appearance of trying to better himself. It was a really bad situation but so far we've seen positive growth from it.
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I think they mean from the characters' perspective, not ours, the god-like observers. We may grow from adversity, but we don't much like experiencing it, and our friends usually don't much enjoy seeing us go through it, either—the real ones, anyway. Dr. Corrine might point out Sven was 'good' for Faye (that's her job), but I doubt Dora, Marten, or even Penelope are going to anytime soon, even if any of them believe it (as Marten might). Years from now, maybe, but not now.
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Given that, I can see the Sven treated Faye horribly argument, but definitely not the ruin her life argument.
Edit: I thought Dora told Sven not to date her friends because it was weird, not because it ruins lives. Unless Dora is referring to her own life?
raoullefere:
Yes, she told Sven that. Later on though, Dora says something different to Marten. My guess would be Dora won't tell Sven this because it would be like confessing to him how much 'better' he is than her. In that cafe scene, they seem to be interacting as equals, so I can understand why Dora wouldn't want to admit to feeling inferior. Could be other reasons though, such as she doesn't think Sven would give a shit. (Note this has more to do with Dora's own feelings about her self-worth than Sven's. Doesn't let the creep off the hook—poaching half your sister's friends for casual screws is pretty low, especially if you could very likely easily do as well without resorting to this.)
Edit: Letting them use her as a stepping stone to you is, of course, even worse.
Akima:
--- Quote from: Border Reiver on 20 Sep 2010, 05:05 ---I was debating about the subject for today's poll - my alternate being other bad comic sources of dating advice:
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How about Least I Could Do...?
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