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Weekly comic thread 2010 September 27 - October 1
Heliphyneau:
Ha, well at least Sven stopped himself from further rhapsodizing over Faye's, er, attributes. He may still have his mojo, but as shown in panel 3, he has lost his hap. :-D The expressions in this strip really cracked me up, the last panel in particular. Sven's got that "WTF is happeneing to me?" face, and Hanners seems to be trying to decide between RUN AWAY and KILL IT WITH FIRE. She'll probably calm down once she realizes that Sven isn't actually going to try and "do her."
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 01 Oct 2010, 07:50 ---Dude is being Honest.
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I agreed with almost all of your post, but this ^ mainly applies to what Sven was saying before he "complimented" Hanners. I think at that point he was just panicking and blurted out what sounded complimentary in his head -- it's not dishonest, it's just a possibly hyperbolic knee-jerk reaction. I really liked what you had his reptile-brain saying, lol.
Hanners is definitely experiencing a true-to-life practice date (the Obsessed with the Ex date, as Is It Cold phrased it). Sometimes even dates with boys who like you and mean well will go terribly awry.
BTW Carl-E, I don't know of an actual edamame song, but the way Hannelore was sounding it out and repeating syllables made it seem like she was making up a song or at least saying the name in a sing-songy way because she liked the sound of it.
And OMG you guys, I saw what Jeph posted before he redacted it, and EVERYTHING IS CLEAR NOW.
>_>
raoullefere:
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 01 Oct 2010, 07:50 ---[snip amusing but no need to repeat the dialogue between various parts of Sven's brain. Wonders if Dr. ROFLPWN has read The Dragons of Eden.]
That being said, I don't really think he's being creepy and it's kind of a jerk move to be all "OMG RUN GURL". :/ Dude is being Honest. That is rare. I think we should be proud of Sven today.
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I was joking about Hanners running, although she does look poised for flight. I am unclear why I should praise Sven for yet again reducing everything to sex when confronted with his real feelings. When he stops and takes an honest look at that, then there'll be time for praise. Right now, what you call 'honest,' I call deep in the financial district* of Denial City.
Of course, I know both Sven and his creator are waiting, breath bated, for my approval.
--- Quote from: Akima on 01 Oct 2010, 00:28 ---*Got to love those commentators. Though no doubt they would say that I had an accent... :-D
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Actually, I think accents tend to follow the same rules that the late great George Carlin laid down for driving speeds.
Have you ever noticed, in traffic, anybody going slower than you is an asshole, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac!
"Would you look at this asshole? Take a look at this asshole right here, just creeping along..."
"Woah, look at that maniac go!"
Because no one is driving my speed.
--- Quote from: Heliphyneau on 01 Oct 2010, 10:45 ---And OMG you guys, I saw what Jeph posted before he redacted it, and EVERYTHING IS CLEAR NOW.
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You realize that now I have to go kill Kenny and frame you for it.
Or I could just save myself some effort. You bastard! (South Park has made this unisex… I think)
*Where exchanges are made, of course. :-D
muffin_of_chaos:
I really liked today's comic. :lol:
--- Quote from: JackFaerie on 30 Sep 2010, 13:48 ---Also, all of you talking about how you do/do not like skinny women: you do realize it is equally as dehumanizing and insulting to us women to hear you proclaim curvy over skinny, since it still says "this is the standard that I think women ought to strive for to be attractive"? If you personally prefer curvy, fine, you can say that (although men tend to state their preferences about women ALL the time as though all of womanhood should care and rush to cater to them). But don't denigrate other body types or classify them as less desirable while you're doing so.
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This is an interesting point by the way, but I think it's oversensitive. I do not think hetero men in general believe that their standard ought to be followed, so much as it is their fantasy that it be followed. I think men in general know they're superficial, and accept it, and assume that women understand that a discussion of whether curvy is better than skinny is only a discussion of preference and fantasy. Why is calling a type of figure less than desirable to yourself an important judgment of that person?
I don't think that most hetero men that state type preference over other types equate such a preference to the universal value of the woman as a person. I think what many people--even the specific men themselves--don't realize is that most heterosexual men generally think of women as having two distinct selves, the self that might or might not sleep with them and that the man might or might not want to sleep with, and the self that doesn't have anything to do with sex. Why does sex have anything to do with actual universal value of the woman as a potential friend, neighbor, countryperson? I think that even if a hetero man is less interested in a woman because she isn't as attractive, that has much less to do with a judgment of her mattering in a universal sense than it is a judgment of her mattering in a sense specific to the man, who is probably in general over-interested in women they find attractive because of how messed up society has tended to teach men to be regarding sex, bravado, masculinity, love, etc.
In other words, claiming that muscly guys are better than skinny guys should not be dehumanizing or insulting to skinny guys, because who is the claimant and why is their opinion of your viability as an object of attraction relevant to anything? The answer is, respectively, it doesn't matter and it isn't unless you're with them or want to be with them.
In the end, maybe your ego doesn't like being thought of as not attractive. But attraction is the poster boy of "eye of the beholder" and I think a whole lot of hetero guys assume that is understood.
deathwing107:
--- Quote from: muffin_of_chaos on 01 Oct 2010, 12:42 ---I really liked today's comic. :lol:
--- Quote from: JackFaerie on 30 Sep 2010, 13:48 ---Also, all of you talking about how you do/do not like skinny women: you do realize it is equally as dehumanizing and insulting to us women to hear you proclaim curvy over skinny, since it still says "this is the standard that I think women ought to strive for to be attractive"? If you personally prefer curvy, fine, you can say that (although men tend to state their preferences about women ALL the time as though all of womanhood should care and rush to cater to them). But don't denigrate other body types or classify them as less desirable while you're doing so.
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This is an interesting point by the way, but I think it's oversensitive. I do not think hetero men in general believe that their standard ought to be followed, so much as it is their fantasy that it be followed. I think men in general know they're superficial, and accept it, and assume that women understand that a discussion of whether curvy is better than skinny is only a discussion of preference and fantasy. Why is calling a type of figure less than desirable to yourself an important judgment of that person?
I don't think that most hetero men that state type preference over other types equate such a preference to the universal value of the woman as a person. I think what many people--even the specific men themselves--don't realize is that most heterosexual men generally think of women as having two distinct selves, the self that might or might not sleep with them and that the man might or might not want to sleep with, and the self that doesn't have anything to do with sex. Why does sex have anything to do with actual universal value of the woman as a potential friend, neighbor, countryperson? I think that even if a hetero man is less interested in a woman because she isn't as attractive, that has much less to do with a judgment of her mattering in a universal sense than it is a judgment of her mattering in a sense specific to the man, who is probably in general over-interested in women they find attractive because of how messed up society has tended to teach men to be regarding sex, bravado, masculinity, love, etc.
In other words, claiming that muscly guys are better than skinny guys should not be dehumanizing or insulting to skinny guys, because who is the claimant and why is their opinion of your viability as an object of attraction relevant to anything? The answer is, respectively, it doesn't matter and it isn't unless you're with them or want to be with them.
In the end, maybe your ego doesn't like being thought of as not attractive. But attraction is the poster boy of "eye of the beholder" and I think a whole lot of hetero guys assume that is understood.
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Whether you agree with it or not, you have to admit that this is possibly the most educated response you'll ever read on a forum. Though for me lurking these forums and not usually posting, this is probably the forum with the most educated, or at least intelligent, people I ever read. Again, regardless if you would agree with those points or not.
tomart:
ok, if anyone actually saw Jeph's pre-redaction, i'd be forever grateful to hear what it was... (and if he'd rather no one else know, I won't tell!) 8-) OR, was heliphyneau making a joke, and there was never a pre-redactation? [yeah, i guess i fell for it.]
--- Quote from: someone1074 on 30 Sep 2010, 20:54 ---...Though I don't quite understand why he's completely losing his cool now when he handled himself pretty well in front of other women....
For humor, I suppose.
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Maybe Sven's off his game, maybe he just succumbed to a Freudian slip, maybe this kind of meta-hetero interaction is beyond me, but my reaction to his dialog in this strip is [ ( WARNING: webcomic BLASPHEMY ) ] that it doesn't sound like Sven to me... (but who the heck am i to judge?)
In other words, it may now be canon, but it's not 'real'...? (i.e., "Sven" is just being used to get a point across, or set up a Hannereaction, or a new arc, or something. Again, that's beyond me, I don't know how to run a webcomic.)
But this is probably the exact kind of thing that will "turn Jeph into a ..." Sorry! (Slinks away, ...)
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