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I want to talk about coffee.
Melodic:
--- Quote from: peterh on 14 Oct 2010, 11:35 ---
--- Quote from: Melodic on 14 Oct 2010, 10:41 ---Dude, there's a reason high-end espresso bars and cafes these days aren't traditional Italian ones: just because it's classic doesn't mean it's right! Traditional Italian espressos are, by today's standards, fairly diluted, using only about 6-8g of ground bean to a 1oz espresso, which makes a bitter, watery shot. [/rant]
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I assume that you're talking about "traditional Italian" coffee shops in Canada, not about the country Italy... right?
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You assume completely incorrectly! I can appreciate what Italy did for coffee and also think that massive improvements have been made since then, and that traditionalists are just stubborn.
Inlander:
Nonetheless, I'm afraid you lose the argument for being the first person to use the word "mouthfeel".
SonofZ3:
Gevalia, whatever box happens to be open, from a French press. Every morning in a big blue cup.
peterh:
--- Quote from: Melodic on 14 Oct 2010, 12:51 ---
--- Quote from: peterh on 14 Oct 2010, 11:35 ---
--- Quote from: Melodic on 14 Oct 2010, 10:41 ---Dude, there's a reason high-end espresso bars and cafes these days aren't traditional Italian ones: just because it's classic doesn't mean it's right! Traditional Italian espressos are, by today's standards, fairly diluted, using only about 6-8g of ground bean to a 1oz espresso, which makes a bitter, watery shot. [/rant]
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I assume that you're talking about "traditional Italian" coffee shops in Canada, not about the country Italy... right?
--- End quote ---
You assume completely incorrectly! I can appreciate what Italy did for coffee and also think that massive improvements have been made since then, and that traditionalists are just stubborn.
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I remain under the assumption that you are still referring to a different country than I am. I've been to Italy a couple times, and on each occasion, the espresso I was served did not fit your description by a large margin.
Also, my espresso machine uses considerably more coffee than 6-8 grams of ground.
Melodic:
Any home espresso machine and most commercial ones dose between 16 and 22 grams for an ounce of espresso -- traditionally, the Italians used much less during the initial popularity of espresso drinks.
Also you fuckin' punks used the word "coffee snob" about a dozen times in the first page and you get uppity when I drop a "mouthfeel" or two? We're gonna fight!!
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