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Dubstep
David_Dovey:
--- Quote from: Jeans on 06 Nov 2010, 17:41 ---I agree! I've been wondering about what dubstep is. A bunch of people here talk about it but I have no idea what it is, so, you know. Show me/us?
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Here:
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KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: David_Dovey on 06 Nov 2010, 16:19 ---Hey come on man admit it if someone started a thread called "Industrial" and was all like "hey d00ds I love Industrial here are some of my faves" and then like ten links to Rammstein tunes you'd probably say some really mean things
Admit it man
Come on
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I'd probably correct them, or at least try to broaden their understanding a little.
Provide some examples of good dubstep, and tell the dude why this stuff is different maybe? On listening to some of the tracks personally I find them to be a bit dull and maybe lacking in the kind of texture I associate with dubstep, but I am hardly an expert.
KvP:
I didn't really want to quote myself only a few hours after it was addressed in a different thread, but whatever.
--- Quote ---When dubstep actually existed it was more like this. These days it's actually more House than Garage. You don't hear many claps on the 3s or snares on the 2s and 4s from the underground.
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The music in the OP is to dubstep what Five Iron Frenzy is to Jamaican ska music. It has a few musical elements in common but it's more or less entirely different. It's all sort of in the same tradition, actually. Jamaican music seeps into UK pop and when it crosses the pond that influence is sapped out of it, or worse, replaced with embarrassing minstrelry. The differences in UK grime and US hip hop also show themselves in the differences, and in my opinion at least the US variants suffer for it.
Khar, you could possibly like Cloaks or Dead Fader. Actually, you might not, since I can't remember if you like Combichrist-y type stuff. It's basically Combichrist crossed with Prodigy as of 1997, minus the vocalists. So it's ridiculous aggro rave noise stuff.
KharBevNor:
I actually much preferred the first track you listed. I am pretty in to dub and old reggae/ska, ala Trojan records, so no surprises there maybe. None of those tracks sound like what I thought was dubstep, which I had assumed to be the grimy reverb-laden drum and bass type stuff with jamaican dudes shouting which pillheads in combat boots spin at some of the better house parties I've been to. That's probably something completely different though. I have never been too good at the microclassification of dance music, except that I can somehow tell the difference between newschool EBM and Futurepop, despite their being exactly the same thing.
Odal:
--- Quote from: KvP on 06 Nov 2010, 19:38 ---I didn't really want to quote myself only a few hours after it was addressed in a different thread, but whatever.
--- Quote ---When dubstep actually existed it was more like this. These days it's actually more House than Garage. You don't hear many claps on the 3s or snares on the 2s and 4s from the underground.
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The music in the OP is to dubstep what Five Iron Frenzy is to Jamaican ska music. It has a few musical elements in common but it's more or less entirely different. It's all sort of in the same tradition, actually. Jamaican music seeps into UK pop and when it crosses the pond that influence is sapped out of it, or worse, replaced with embarrassing minstrelry. The differences in UK grime and US hip hop also show themselves in the differences, and in my opinion at least the US variants suffer for it.
Khar, you could possibly like Cloaks or Dead Fader. Actually, you might not, since I can't remember if you like Combichrist-y type stuff. It's basically Combichrist crossed with Prodigy as of 1997, minus the vocalists. So it's ridiculous aggro rave noise stuff.
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This is just a huge case of "Back in mah day..." It's like the people who still love the 90s because nothing good came after (and for every other decade). I don't call Nikelback "rock" (or w/e their name is), but I'm sure their classified as such. But I also don't go around talking about how "Back in mah day rock was like this..." Because I know people are going to like what they like regardless. I also know the genres change and I simply won't follow music I don't like.
With that said, I do like the link you quoted and the last link, but the link "cloaks" is pretty aweful imo. The link in the quote is definitely slower and more minimalistic than what I was looking for, but it's still pretty good. It sounds like the kind of music I would listen to if I want to listen to some post rock.
That Gold Dust song linked earlier in the thread sucks pretty bad... :\ Flux Pavilion is big time hit-or-miss for me. Probably more miss than not.
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