Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
Tergon:
Seven pages. By Tuesday.
Jesus.
Well, anyway, I am curious to see where this will go. Obviously shit is going down, and this is the closest they've had to a "breaking up" moment we've seen. They clearly won't let it lie at this, there's going to be more discussion at the very least, more yelling and fighting quite possibly, but it's not a good place to be at.
I don't believe that Marten and Dora have been working toward a breakup, per se. Dora, we all know, has her issues, but she clearly loves Marten and doesn't want to lose what she has. She just has boundary issues, not only with Marten's behaviour, but obviously now with her own. Hell, even Faye observed that with Marten's mum doing what she does, porn would obviously be kind of a sore point with him, no matter how well-adjusted he might be. It's a trust issue, and no doubt a big personal line in the sand, that Dora shouldn't have crossed.
But I think this is more of Marten's issues that we're seeing here. I don't see hints in the comic that they've been fizzling in the relationship, but I do believe I've seen hints that Marten is starting to question his life a bit. He has a small group of friends that range from semi-secret-agents to (literally) famously bitchy baristas to the daughter of a pair of supervillians. He's in a band that even he acknowledges is going nowhere. He has a job that he openly acknowledges isn't a whole lot of fun for him. His girlfriend tears him a new asshole over things he doesn't understand and treats him like a kid. His best friend, who he lives with, still blueballs him every now and then (as we've seen in his dreams) and he's now watching her start a relationship with someone else. And then throw in basically anything Pintsize does...
It's been said before in earlier discussions, but it needs to be said again - Marten Reed is the most superhumanly well-adjusted individual in the entire universe. The fact that he's not a screaming ball of crazy right now is proof of that. But bit by bit, we're watching him become a little more assertive here, a little more domineering there. He still controls himself - the first and only time we've ever seen him get truly mad in the comic, something Faye even noted, he clamped down on it to be a nice guy to Dora again. That was, maybe, the first crack in his armour. This is the next one, and it's a lot bigger.
Anyone who's ever said the words, "I'm sick of your apologies!" knows what it really means. You're not sick of hearing the apologies, you're sick of being in a situation where the other person has hurt you and is saying sorry, and you have to accept the apology. You're tired of this cycle where you get hurt and you have to laugh it off and pretend that it's all okay. Marten is the whipping boy of the entire QC-Universe and it's obvious that he knows it... and it's becoming even more obvious that he's sick of it. Dora just finally pushed too hard on a topic he wasn't comfortable with, and now things are happening. And, much like I said with their fight after Faye's panic attack, if and when Marten's armour finally does crack away, I'm going to be very interested to see what's underneath.
Despite the overwhelming odds that Jeph is too sensible to read this thread, I just have to say: the slow evolution of Marten as a character is one of the main reasons I keep reading QC, and I can't wait to see where this goes. Even if it gets grim for Dora and Marten, I'm looking forward to the story unfolding.
emeraldbeacon:
I'm almost hoping that Hanners comes downstairs, worry-cap on, saying she heard shouting and hoping everything was ok, only to find Martin curled up on the couch while Pintsize uploads Martin's meager porn collection. She asks if he's ok, sits next to him, says if he need a hug, she wants to be able to give him one, then he leans against her, and then...
</fanfic>
GruntyBalboa:
I'm sure this is summed up by the others here, or at least I hope it is, but...
No, bitch, you do not get to violate your boyfriends privacy, give a half assed apology, and get off with an "I'm sorry, too, baby."
That is all. I feel better now.
AngelofShadows:
I'm gonna make a few predictions.
1) Dora runs into Sven and pretty much blames him. That he treated ladies like shit and they kept coming back (unintentional pun? Maybe) yet she makes "one mistake over something that isn't a big deal" and it's the end of the world. Sven will point out that his actions have left him alone and quite sad, and he has to deal with the consequences of his actions, because they have consequences, and she needs to realize that. Cause it kinda seems like she doesn't. Not when it comes to relationships. Not in this instance.
2)After telling Faye, who will (hopefully) tell her that while she has every right to feel hurt, she has little right to feel mad, She will go to the apartment to find Marten really fucking depressed. She will go on about how he didn't handle the situation the best and he will just mutter "I'm just tired of being walked on" or something to that effect. I mean, that's the whole thing that is fueling this right? That Dora acts like she holds all the cards in this relationship? I mean, if you think about it, the only concession that she's given into is moving in with him and Faye, and that only happened after she talked to Faye. Faye convinced her, not Marten. She hasn't handled her insecurities at all. She justs shifts them from one thing to another. Marten, by his nature, enables this, but as a dude who's dealt with people taking advantage of that, knowingly or otherwise, is real fucking tiring. Faye feels a tad guilty (she has done this as well) and goes back to CoD and lets Dora know that they've all fucked up, and that he's really hurting. They all go home and have a nice long talk. Things get better and drama ends for a while.
3) Marten waits a bit, goes to the shop and gets hit by a car 2 blocks away. Dora and Faye both walk up as he's being put into the ambulance. Tears are shed. The servers to these forums burst into flames from the ensuing forum drama. Jeph watches as it burns and laughs a big hearty laugh. Series ends with a snap of Yelling Bird flipping everyone off yelling "THIS ENOUGH DRAMA FOR YOU {insert vulgar insult here}?!"
4) Hanners shows up, consoles Marten, and then MAKES OUT WITH HIM AND THEY TOTALLY DO IT AND IT'S SO UBER HOT!!! Meanwhile, Faye consoles Dora, and they go out with Angus and Marigold and they all get drunk AND TOTALLY HAVE SEX WITH EACH OTHER! AND IT'S SO TOTALLY HOT YOU HAVE NO IDEA. Internets implode.
edit: I realized that I didn't finish my thought on 2. And I added one.
Enduar:
"Marten waits a bit, goes to the shop and gets hit by a car 2 blocks away. Dora and Faye both walk up as he's being put into the ambulance. Tears are shed. The servers to these forums burst into flames from the ensuing forum drama. Jeph watches as it burns and laughs a big hearty laugh. Series ends with a snap of Yelling Bird flipping everyone off yelling "THIS ENOUGH DRAMA FOR YOU {insert vulgar insult here}?!""
I think you're looking for the "Jumping the Shark" Thread.
Though I do think Jeph wouldn't mind seeing these forums burn.
Looks like Martin might be available just as little Hanners is actually ready for actual dating and human relations. Fun.
JUST. AS. PLANNED.
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