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WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
Near Lurker:
If they really are going to stay apart, putting bad blood between Marten and Dora, and hence probably Faye and Dora, will have to shake things up more than "The Talk."
But everyone's missing what's really important - Jeph quit drinking? It is the apocalypse...
slydon:
Please no Hannersmarten hurt comfort fic.
Okay, maybe a little.
Prince of Space:
--- Quote from: eyosgkxb on 16 Nov 2010, 08:47 ---How can she not have forced his hand, Marten is a pushover true but even he can't ignore how she is acting. What did he do wrong to deserve a door slam in his face and guilt over the fact that his privacy and trust are being tested? There's nothing calm about her, I understand her intensity during the underwear event but there's no way to justify her actions this time.
--- End quote ---
At this point, I want to say 'troll', because it seems like you're not reading everything here (or are ignoring some things). However, just in case you aren't a troll..
None of what I said justified her actions.
The whole premise is: blame does nothing useful.
You can say 'this is her fault' or 'this is his fault' until you are blue in the face. The fact is, if you put your words in Marten's mouth (i.e. he blames her) it does nothing useful. All it does is give him a reason to feel he's 'right'. Why make him 'right' in this situation? What does that do? It gives Marten a reason to keep being angry (not helpful). It gives Marten a reason not to look at his own shortcomings (assuming/misunderstanding/not standing up for himself/etc). Blaming her would only strengthen any doubts he has on being wrong. (EDIT: This applies to Dora as well.)
That's not how healthy relationships go. Both people look at themselves in a problem and try to find a solution together. Which, by Marten's face on the last panel, is what I'm hoping what he's about to go and try.
And if you read 'find a solution together' as 'get back together and be happy', then you prove my point that you aren't hearing me. :(
LeeC:
to be honest I always liked the idea of Hanners/Marten since she first appeared, but I'd rather Marten and Dora stay together.
Josefbugman:
I heard it said quite well on another forum:
'Dora has consistently apologized for overstepping in one way and then turned around and done it somewhere else. It's like she isn't seeing the fundamental similarities between the various scenarios. She's like a little kid — "you told me not to draw on the walls with my crayons, so I drew on the refrigerator with my markers."'
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