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WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
Wiregeek:
--- Quote from: lolbutts on 16 Nov 2010, 10:45 ---Seeing as everyone else is delurking, I thought I'd sign up purely to ask you to stob babbling like a Dr. Phil after school special.
"What's the use of blame?"
Gee, I don't know, ask the motherfucking justice system.
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Pfft, the justice system never fucked my mother.
If nothing else, this plot is sure driving traffic to the forum.
eyosgkxb:
--- Quote from: Prince of Space on 16 Nov 2010, 10:24 ---
--- Quote from: eyosgkxb on 16 Nov 2010, 09:43 ---Blame does nothing useful? Aside from keep the dispute on point? This is a dispute isn't it? I see 2 people with hurt feelings by what cause? So the cause here isn't one of the parties involved is what you are saying?
I hate to sound like a "Troll" as you put it, but please clarify what you even meant in that post?
Well, at the end of the day, Marten is right in this situation.
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Blame is a tool used to make the blame-er like he or she is in the right. It's just not something to use in a level headed discussion or a relationship dispute.
For instance: Let's say I looked at your diary and found out you were screwing my boyfriend. I break up with said boyfriend. Then I blame you. We get into an argument. You blame me for reading your diary in the first place or for being neglectful of my boyfriend. I blame you for betraying me. Can you tell me how blame would make this go any better? It certainly wouldn't keep us 'on point'. We'd both have different viewpoints (our own) and would probably be unable to empathize with the other.
The only thing that would really matter is that it happened. Now how are you going to deal with it?
If two people want to make a relationship work, you talk things out. You try and find out why someone did something. Blaming someone else isn't going to change the fact that it happened. Knowing the root of the problem is helpful(hint: the root of the problem isn't watching his porn), but not unless you're trying to figure out a solution.
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Let me get this right, I cheat with your boyfriend, you guys break up and it doesn't matter that I'm to blame?
Border Reiver:
They're still broken up, and blaming you didn't make it better, so now the other party is out a friend as well.
Not that you were a good friend, what with banging the BF and all
IanClark:
Probably should've stayed lurking...
The reason finding who's to blame is useless in a scenario like this is because it doesn't answer any questions. We can conclude it's Dora, and so could all the characters in the comic, but where the fuck does that get anyone? Does it make a solution any more obvious? Only if you consider "DORA'S A STUPID BITCH AND SHE SHOULD BE ALONE FOREVER BECAUSE SHE'S STUPID AND A BITCH!" a solution. Which I don't. In fact, I don't even consider it an accurate statement.
Finding who's to blame should only go as far as figuring out who needs to take steps to fix it, not in terms of finding who to direct anger toward. Dora needs help to overcome the problems that are causing her to hurt herself and the people she loves. Full stop. That's the resolution. No sentencing need be delivered, no one need be doomed to another hundred years of solitude for their transgressions. The problem needs to be fixed, which means it needs to be addressed as "the problem", not "the list of reasons this reflects badly on Dora".
eyosgkxb:
--- Quote from: IanClark on 16 Nov 2010, 10:57 ---Probably should've stayed lurking...
The reason finding who's to blame is useless in a scenario like this is because it doesn't answer any questions. We can conclude it's Dora, and so could all the characters in the comic, but where the fuck does that get anyone? Does it make a solution any more obvious? Only if you consider "DORA'S A STUPID BITCH AND SHE SHOULD BE ALONE FOREVER BECAUSE SHE'S STUPID AND A BITCH!" a solution. Which I don't. In fact, I don't even consider it an accurate statement.
Finding who's to blame should only go as far as figuring out who needs to take steps to fix it, not in terms of finding who to direct anger toward. Dora needs help to overcome the problems that are causing her to hurt herself and the people she loves. Full stop. That's the resolution. No sentencing need be delivered, no one need be doomed to another hundred years of solitude for their transgressions. The problem needs to be fixed, which means it needs to be addressed as "the problem", not "the list of reasons this reflects badly on Dora".
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How the duex is it useless, the point of application of blame is incase the accused refuses to accept it. Dora can't change who she is if she won't even realize that she's the one that started tthe problem in the first place. Dora is to blame and the only person responsiblee to change what brought her to this situation is Dora. I'm sure Marten or anyone else is no angel but what did he do to deserve any of what happened to him.
Its like your justifying rape because the victim had been intimate with the attacker in the past.
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