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WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
Dr. ROFLPWN:
--- Quote from: Odin on 17 Nov 2010, 03:14 ---The morons that fail to realize that what Dora did in Monday's comic was a complete deal-breaker are killing me here (also Jeph giving people even the slightest hope for a continued relationship between Marten and Dora at this point).
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Oh hey sup Odin
You missed that train by several hours
Also, I could give an anecdotal response about how in my experience you fight for relationships you care about and "dealbreaker" is a silly fuckin' meme, but I don't feel like gettin' trolled
Also, dickbroom
MarkCorrigan:
--- Quote from: Josefbugman on 16 Nov 2010, 09:31 ---Yeahhhh, you do realise that the interpretation of "The prince" as satire is a really recent invention? Considering that there had already been a book published in England, refuting Mach's points before "The prince" had even been translated, you sort of understand why people might not see it as satire.
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Nope. It's still a satire. Have you read any of his other works? Any at all? They're all completely different. He espouses the ideas of free republics and HATES the very concept of ruling families. The De Medici family broke his fingers repeatedly when he wouldn't write for them, so he specifically set out to write a book which, while the tactics would have been effective, made anyone who followed them into a complete monster. Something he already thought they were.
ANYWAY. I suspect this will end up in a big fight between Marten and Sven when Marten goes to see Dora, Sven will have a talk with Dora who will realise how nuts she's been recently and will work on her problems, becoming the genuinely nice, decent person she seems to be for most of the time, Faye will get slaughtered, possibly with Marten but nothing will happen between them.
Odin:
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 17 Nov 2010, 03:19 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 17 Nov 2010, 03:14 ---The morons that fail to realize that what Dora did in Monday's comic was a complete deal-breaker are killing me here (also Jeph giving people even the slightest hope for a continued relationship between Marten and Dora at this point).
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Oh hey sup Odin
You missed that train by several hours
Also, I could give an anecdotal response about how in my experience you fight for relationships you care about and "dealbreaker" is a silly fuckin' meme, but I don't feel like gettin' trolled
Also, dickbroom
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Missed the train, nothing, I'm the fuckin' conductor and have been screaming "ALL ABOARD!" for months.
Dora has proven time and again that she has no real respect for Marten and when he finally displays a bit of spine growth about it she basically says "Fuck you, I'm out of here!" and storms off. The relationship is already over, all that is left is the series of events where both of them realize this fact.
graymouser:
So yeah, the drama llama got to the point where I pretty much had to register for the forums. So, hi.
I've been bugged by Dora's "vindictive prick" line since comic 1797 went up, because seriously Marten didn't deserve it. Given that he is so damn bitter about things, I think the relationship's over or nearly so. I think it's about time, they seriously don't seem to have developed a healthy relationship dynamic and Dora does not seem to want to. The only way out of this would be couples therapy, which I don't see happening.
Given the way the comic's been going, neatly pairing off everybody it can in the growing social circle, the natural monkey wrench to get thrown in the works would be for Marten and Faye to either make out or go a bit further than that, and Dora finds out, and shit hits the fan. I couldn't see that leading to a stable Marten/Faye relationship by any means this would simply be a mistake that creates permanent divisions in their group of friends. I do think that the comic's basic arc eventually leads to a stable Marten/Faye pairing but there is a long and angsty road before we could possibly get there. The first 500 comics lived on the unresolved sexual tension between Faye and Marten, and while The Talk calmed things down long enough in that area to establish the Marten/Dora relationship, honestly it's surprising that the pairing's made it this long.
Anyway, the likelihood that this leads to a sexy pair-off fest is...er, low. In the short run you'd have a Marten/Faye hookup that doesn't lead to a relationship on their part but ends up with Faye out of Coffee of Doom, Dora out of the apartment, Faye/Angus cooling off, and some serious long-term challenges for the characters.
Oh, and :psyduck:
Dr. ROFLPWN:
--- Quote from: Odin on 17 Nov 2010, 03:27 ---
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 17 Nov 2010, 03:19 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 17 Nov 2010, 03:14 ---The morons that fail to realize that what Dora did in Monday's comic was a complete deal-breaker are killing me here (also Jeph giving people even the slightest hope for a continued relationship between Marten and Dora at this point).
--- End quote ---
Oh hey sup Odin
You missed that train by several hours
Also, I could give an anecdotal response about how in my experience you fight for relationships you care about and "dealbreaker" is a silly fuckin' meme, but I don't feel like gettin' trolled
Also, dickbroom
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Missed the train, nothing, I'm the fuckin' conductor and have been screaming "ALL ABOARD!" for months.
Dora has proven time and again that she has no real respect for Marten and when he finally displays a bit of spine growth about it she basically says "Fuck you, I'm out of here!" and storms off. The relationship is already over, all that is left is the series of events where both of them realize this fact.
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Actually, ChibiSoma stole your conductor position, and added to it the gross flavor of Faye/Marten shipping and needlessly calling Dora a bitch over and over.
I do think it's time for Marten to tell her that if they are gonna be together, no more dithering, no more promises to change, she has to get some serious self-reflection and self-collection going on.
As Christopher Titus would have it, Death ain't gonna give you a rebate for sticking with someone who hurts you. And I think Dora and Marten are good for each other, but Dora was so destroyed by the opposite sex early on that she has a regimen of defense mechanisms and bullshit she keeps projecting at him. She needs to take care of her damage.
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