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Foreshadowing of The Breakup
akronnick:
More Dora insecurity.
parvles:
Been reading the strip for 4 years or so. Just reread the entire archives and I have to agree, it's pretty obvious that Dora is never going to be happy in this relationship when you read it from the beginning. I think most things have been pointed out already but this strip stuck out to me in context of Dora freaking out over Marten's haircut.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1302
The fact that she doesn't even recognize her hypocrisy when it's being pointed out to her speaks volumes, and it's something Marten spoke about with her, too ("you can talk about people you are attracted to all you want but you freak out when i look at someone else"). Dora is the only character who hasn't started to overcome her problems, it seems. Every other character has shown growth in overcoming their issues, and Dora seems to be the only one that takes her problems for granted. That's why the relationship couldn't work. Thank God for Faye pushing her into therapy, so her character can move forward. I guess the biggest problem with Dora was that first of all, she always had and issue with jealousy of Marten, secondly, that she never recognized when she was pushing him, and thirdly, that she seemed to skim over the fact that her issue was with jealousy and blamed her problems on sibling rivalry with Sven, which seems totally insane except for when she freaked out about Faye hooking up with him, which is one of MANY freakouts.
Anyway, just wanted to add that strip to the pile.
flamingo:
--- Quote from: parvles on 28 Nov 2010, 07:55 ---Been reading the strip for 4 years or so. Just reread the entire archives and I have to agree, it's pretty obvious that Dora is never going to be happy in this relationship when you read it from the beginning. I think most things have been pointed out already but this strip stuck out to me in context of Dora freaking out over Marten's haircut.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1302
The fact that she doesn't even recognize her hypocrisy when it's being pointed out to her speaks volumes, and it's something Marten spoke about with her, too ("you can talk about people you are attracted to all you want but you freak out when i look at someone else"). Dora is the only character who hasn't started to overcome her problems, it seems. Every other character has shown growth in overcoming their issues, and Dora seems to be the only one that takes her problems for granted. That's why the relationship couldn't work. Thank God for Faye pushing her into therapy, so her character can move forward. I guess the biggest problem with Dora was that first of all, she always had and issue with jealousy of Marten, secondly, that she never recognized when she was pushing him, and thirdly, that she seemed to skim over the fact that her issue was with jealousy and blamed her problems on sibling rivalry with Sven, which seems totally insane except for when she freaked out about Faye hooking up with him, which is one of MANY freakouts.
Anyway, just wanted to add that strip to the pile.
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But what about thatstrip where Dora says Marten can lust after other girls as long as he says Dora is the prettiest.
parvles:
I mean, that goes back and forth. She also freaked out about the girl asking him out even though he immediately turned her down and told her he had a girlfriend. It's like my two friends who recently decided that they could totally do an open relationship if they were attracted to other people even though the boy is totally jealous of her even hanging out with other guys. Sure she can be ok with it, but there's something in her that just can't handle it (hence the freakouts). Dora jokes about Marten and other girls all the time, but if MARTEN says something about another girl, it's a totally different thing.
Anyway, since privacy was also a big thing for Marten in the breakup fight, I thought this one might be relevant, too.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1669
Looking back, Dora and Marten weren't living for very long, were they? I always get confused about the amount of time that has passed between events, but it's been like 150 strips since she moved in, which in QC time is like a month. Maybe the move also contributed to the issues in the relationship. A lot of the major issues came up since that point.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: flamingo on 28 Nov 2010, 09:49 ---But what about that strip where Dora says Marten can lust after other girls as long as he says Dora is the prettiest.
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That's Dora trying to bury her issues.
Besides, it's not simple jealousy - she didn't say it, but he could look at other girls so long as they were not Faye. That's where the issue lay.
Dora's interesting because, as parvles mentioned, she has issues that she's unable to get past, but unlike other characters (Marigold, for instance) she's not self-unaware (un-self-aware?), she seems to know she has problems. Only she doesn't recognize them when they kick in. I have to say here that that's the way most of us work who have issues. You may recognize them, but if you could tell when they were kicking in, then you could get past them, and they wouldn't be issues anymore. It often takes another person to point these reactions out to us so we can make progress, and no one seriously called Dora on these until recently.
The fact that in many of these strips her confessions of her issues were used as punchlines didn't help anyone (in the strip or on the forum) take her seriously, until things came to a head. Even then, like a lot of us with issues, just knowing they're there, and even recognizing when we start falling into the old patterns 9as she finally has) won't get us out of them. Strategies are needed. They can come from within, or from others, and that's the main reason therapy works for so many.
Lets hope it helps her.
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