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Foreshadowing of The Breakup

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Is it cold in here?:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1395

MissAnneThrope:
Yes! That one! I just thought it was kind of crappy the way Dora felt like she had a right to monopolize him. Seems kind of like a recipe for disaster. Thanks for finding the link!  :-D

JD:
What Sven said to Marten pretty much spelled things out.

JackFaerie:

--- Quote from: Arky on 20 Nov 2010, 17:35 ---As I mentioned in the WCDT, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=756 is in retrospect an obvious foreshadowing comic.  Marten describes the breakup exactly (except for the bit with the Harley, which may still happen).  He just doesn't realise he's talking about Dora...

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Oh come, let's not get carried away now. Dora's not emotionally unavailable--that would be Faye for you. It's not like she had issues with commitment or felt uncomfortable allowing herself to love Marten or anything else that "emotionally unavailable" means. She was quite emotionally available to Marten--her issue was that she feared he wasn't quite as exclusively emotionally available to her as she'd have liked. And she certainly wasn't passive aggressive--again, that would be more Marten. All her aggression was quite on the surface--she flipped out in irrational anger binges, remember? So no, I don't think this is foreshadowing at all.


--- Quote from: MissAnneThrope on 20 Nov 2010, 18:12 ---I don't think it's just the issue with Faye that's been contributing to the downfall of Marten and Dora, though that certainly was a huge issue. She's a jealous person dating a guy where his core group of friends are all female (with the exception of a few male friends on the edge of his inner circle), and in different ways, that's contributed to this too. Pinning it specifically to the Faye issue has covered most of their breakup, but not really all the issues that were going on there. I feel, in essence, Dora is using Faye as a blanket excuse. The comic (can't remember the specific one, sorry) where Marten and Hannelore are talking about music, she was jealous of that too, because his "musicianship" was a part of him she could never reach, she could never have that kind of conversation with him, she had "girlfriend conversations" with him. Though that would arguably be a more intimate type of discussion, and a very intimate part of him to claim as her own (the "girlfriend conversations") she still doesn't think it's good enough because she doesn't have all of him. That's why I think the biggest foreshadowing was the musician conversation, it showed her real... lack of contentment in what she had with Marten. No matter how much of him she had, unless she had all of him, she'd be wanting more and feeling unsatisfied.

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But this could well have been because she didn't feel she really had him, because of the Faye thing. Ie, with a guy she felt more sure of, she could have been more relaxed in all aspects. Plus yeah, there's her history of cheating exes.

jwhouk:

--- Quote from: Zombiedude on 20 Nov 2010, 20:48 ---What Sven said to Marten pretty much spelled things out.

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Okay, let's look at that:

--- Quote from: Sven (in 1746) ---The "chill and understanding" thing is an act. She's a mess underneath it all. You know you're the first dude she's ever dated who wasn't a complete douchebag?

(Marten: "She's said...")

Oh, they were all HUGE a$$holes. Real alpha-goth types. Treated her like $#!+, cheated on her, the works. She's never been in a healthy relationship. Not that I know of, anyway.

(How come she never told me...?)

Doesn't like talking about it. Gotta keep up the act, remember?

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Tie this in with Dora's "Too nice for my own good" comment way way WAY back in 229, and her comment in 562: "I'm just as angsty as I used to be. I just try to hide it more now."

Duh. Shoulda guessed she'd shoot this relationship in the foot.

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