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JackFaerie:

--- Quote from: AngelofShadows on 20 Nov 2010, 22:44 ---I don't see anyone really "siding" with Dora. Even Penelope, who seems to have issues with past relationships would be hard pressed to point anything that Marten did to deserve getting dumped.
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Ugghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. What is wrong with you people?  Relationships aren't some kind of contest with rules and winners and losers. Did Marten do anything to "deserve" getting "dumped"? No. Did the relationship run its course to the point where it was no longer viable and had to end? Yes. There is no "side" to take. If Marten had been the one to break up with Dora, he would have been totally justified because her behavior was getting unacceptable. Dora realizing that her behavior was getting unacceptable and ending things does not make her into the "evil dumper" either.


--- Quote from: AngelofShadows on 20 Nov 2010, 22:44 ---Way I see it, if Dora couldn't get over her issues with Marten/Faye, she should have voiced it much sooner than now.
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Why do you assume she KNEW she couldn't get over them? All evidence in the comic (and everything Dora's said) points to the idea that
 a) she was largely repressing the conscious knowledge of how much the Faye thing still bothered her (in fact, she may well have thought this was a way of dealing with her insecurities)
 b) she thought that she would be able to get over it

She realized that it was still an active problem for her and she would NOT be able to get over it as of this last fight--and broke up with Marten.
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Aurjay:
she gets hit by a truck.

Blackjoker:
Each one has some interesting potential

1) Dora spends more time with Penelope, we get for development on her, maybe some on Will, basically expand other characters.

2) Tai finds out what happens, maybe a comment causes a fight with Marten, maybe he ends up taking something harder than he should, maybe Tai fires him, maybe nothing happens but Tai decides to comfort Dora reasoning that Marten has a lot of people to turn to. We get more background on Tai aside from 'lesbian fond of sexual exploration'

3) Angus offers to help Marten through all of this, or maybe instead offers to help Dora out as a friend to listen to, if not just for her sake but for Fayes as well.

4) Coffee of Doom becomes wired with about a metric ton of dramamite, maybe Dora actually decides to take some time off to do something else to avoid the tension, either that or things keep escalating and one errant comment causes the explosion.

AngelofShadows:
In reply to JackFaerie.

Did the relationship run it's course? I personally reserve that for when both parties are at the finish line. The look on Martens face in the last panels of 1799 and the first of 1800 seems to me like he's still at the last checkpoint.

And I say that Dora couldn't get over her whole "Marten is only with me because he couldn't be with Faye" issues is because they keep, erh, kept popping up. The fact that Marten seems annoyed that he has to again state that he wants to genuinely be with her would, at face value, be an indication that it was a subject that came up more than once. She's voiced them before.

And that's the issue I have with her reasoning (as of now. Future comics could make this clearer. Hell, she could be lying about the reason she gave Marten in the first place) is that it just isn't justifiable. Not in my feeble little mind. She voiced her insecurities about this shortly after they started dating. And the way she worded her explanation made it seem like they kept fighting over stupid shit because of that insecurity. Her "trying" to deal with it seemed to be just pushing it down, which, at least in my experiences, means she was still, at some level, aware of it. Instead of finding a means of dealing with it, she hid from it, pushed it aside in her head until it was to big to deal with, to big to hide from. Like Godzilla. For over a year. While living with the source of her Godzilla....or would Fayezilla be more apt? Know what, I'm gonna go with Fayezilla. Yeah, that worksinsecurity. That just....I guess I don't understand her logic, even though I know emotions are an illogical thing to begin with.

If a problem is to big for you to handle, you go to your SO. That's the uber perk of a relationship. Problems aren't so big if it's split into two.

I guess I'll end this pointless ramble here. Though I will make an amendment to my previous post. Penelope could probably point out that if Marten had just gotten a place with Dora instead of having her move in with him and Faye, none of this would have probably happened. Oh well. No point dwelling over hypotheticals and "what ifs"

Should I do the whole "oh...wait" thing? I was going to but damned if it doesn't make me seem like a bigger internet asshole. So maybe I'll end with this (even though I already said I'd end it like a paragraph ago)

I would like these fictional people who's life's I read about five days a week (unless Yelling Bird shows up) to be happy. Dora isn't a bitch for this. I just don't think she's right in this case. But hell, I'm not Jeph. I don't know what's gonna happen. Probably something that makes me (and what appears to be half the forum users now) look like a stupid jackass. Eh, such is life. Such is Psyduck  :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

AnAverageWriter:
I actually think Jack's post was pretty spot-on.

This isn't a game of Monopoly here, or Scrabble or whatnot, with sides, winners and "losers". These are two friends who have just had a really difficult decision made, one that was in many ways inevitable.

I think the absolute worst thing that could happen would be for people in the group to make things worse by "taking sides", trying to punish one person or the other, or whatnot.

Maturity means both comforting friends and realizing when backing off is warranted.

And always having Emergency Bourbon onhand.

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