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Martin 20 minutes into the future

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darkstarr88:
Although there are many ways to explain the core concept of what im trying to articulate my assumption is im going to do it poorly,

Experience is the hammer blow that forges character into something new, That can be good or bad but whatever the outcome its not what it was when it first went in. The strength of his character seems to be his ability to emphasize with characters and try and help them fix themselves or better themselves which is noble. That said he helped "fix"* Faye only to see her go out with other guys, had a relationship with dora filled with its issues and the previous one (with the chick that faye threw milk at) which led him to be where he is presently and the next couple of weeks see his character grow. Although i dont think the relationships define who we are as people it goes back to the experiences we have during and inevitable at the end of them and martin seems to have had some terrible experiences which leads to how he deals and copes with those and the man he will become.

So 20 minutes into the future do you think martin will grow to be bitter and cynical, a little self destructive or maintain the status quo although these are by no means the only options where do you think martin as a character will go?

i would personaly like to see him get a little self destructive have him burn some bridges, be self destructive, not cope well, be fallible, make bad decisions, fuck people off cast to show that the series of relationships he has had inflicited on him has not made him come out the better. But then self realisation kicks in and he returns to his optomistic self but tempered with a little bit of bitterness or cynicism.

*i dont exactly think you can fix people but he was trying to get her to address her issues and get better don't really know a short way of saying that, also he got a friend out of it which is good but seems to be a consolation prize.

Wiregeek:
While I cannot see an opinion that a character should be written as fallible and imperfect (hipster jesus, anyone?) gaining any sort of approval here, especially from the self-appointed Guardians of the Forum, I am quite pleased to be the dissenting voice.

I agree. Almost wholeheartedly. I don't feel any real resonance with your proposed scenario for Marten's self-destructive behavior, but some imperfect actions from our very own Hipster Jesus would be quite dramatic, and something I would enjoy seeing.

I disagree with your post-script, also. I think a _good_ friend (as opposed to a 'friend'), is a damn fine consolation prize.

40 pages by twilight, damn the horses, pour whiskey in the boiler!

Carl-E:
Well, not that  poorly.  

This is a good point for speculation.  some has been done in various threads, but it can be a good topic in and of itself.  Of course, the next week or so will tell us how Marten reacts - I suspect there will be a depressive period, after which he will return to his old self, but I agree that this experience will change him somewhat.  Perhaps a little warier of relationships (it apparently took a long time to get over the one he moved for), and a bit more attuned to signs of insecurity (and impending DOOM) in the future.  

I think he already knows he can't be "Mr. Fix-it".  

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....and it had  to be wiregeek.  Trust me, you're not "the dissenting voice", there are a myriad of opinions on here, there always were.  I'm sure some do ascribe to the hipster jesus theory, but most don't.  The man's just that, a man.  A good guy, flawed in a lot of ways, easy to identify with.  That's why so many people take so many sides with him. 

But really, contrarianism isn't a suit that fits anyone well.  Why don't you tell us what you think  instead of your knee jerk Fox-news style provocations. 

Then maybe you can actually have a discussion with someone on here! 

Oh, and I agree with you about the consolation prize - a good friend is probably the best prize you can have! 

Wiregeek:

--- Quote from: Carl-E on 23 Nov 2010, 11:25 ---But really, contrarianism isn't a suit that fits anyone well.  Why don't you tell us what you think  instead of your knee jerk Fox-news style provocations. 

Then maybe you can actually have a discussion with someone on here! 

Oh, and I agree with you about the consolation prize - a good friend is probably the best prize you can have! 

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43 words in my initial statement, the only one that could be (by anything other than a grand stretch) classified as 'contrarian', or 'provocative', 60 in the portion of my post giving my opinion - both agreeing and respectfully disagreeing with the thread opener, 12 set aside for funny.

Moving on...


--- Quote ---I think he already knows he can't be "Mr. Fix-it". 
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I'm unsure about this, but I certainly hope so! The thing noone wants to talk about the Knight in Shining Armor, is that that shit chafes, and feeding the white charger takes a lot of your time and energy..   I think Marten would be better off using those for himself instead of others.

iduguphergrave:
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