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Elder Scrolls V
LTK:
Yeah, the elves are really racist against men, but that's different from men being racist to men. Elves are a wholly different species, who's to say they can't be superior to men? They won the freakin' war, that kind of makes it hard to ignore their influence. One time I was fighting a dragon and a group of Thalmor joined the fray. The dragon was dead in less than 30 seconds. Say what you want, but they're a hell of a lot more effective than any man I've seen fighting a dragon. (Except me of course.)
Earlier I was wondering if there was actually any proof that Talos had ascended to godhood. We have no reason to believe this is the case apart from the shrines to him having some effect, but that doesn't preclude the citizens of Skyrim being influenced by a MASSIVE placebo-effect. And what about the other gods, then? Do we have reason to believe they exist? I've had about six different Daedra speak to me in the coure of the game, but never any god. I don't know about you, but that makes me strongly doubt whether the gods even care at all.
--- Quote from: snalin on 02 Jan 2012, 06:03 ---I'm at level 56 and still enjoying myself. Some of the lower Dwemer ruins you visit towards the end of the game looks amazing, I've just finished exploring every corner of them.
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I've gained access to those now as well, with the thing that Septimus Signus gave me. The place is mindboggling! I just can't figure out how that giant and the two frost trolls ever got in there.
Also, I have an Elder Scroll now, woo!
snalin:
The inclusion of an actual Elder Scroll as a plot item in Oblivion (final thieves guild quest is to steal one) got me really excited. That one had such a central role in Skyrim was just plain awesome. And they've still been able to keep the lore about them pretty low-key, which is cool - there's still mystery to the world.
As to the divines, they are definitely active - see the end of Oblivion. According to lore, the eight are actually weaker than the other Aedra, their weakened state being because part of their souls went into shaping Nirn, the world. The ability of a human to rise to divinity or near-divinity is also apparent - Sotha Sill, Vivec, Almalexia and Dagoth Ur all did exactly that.
Actually, when reading about Dagoth Ur right now, I notice that his goals are very similar to the Stormcloacks. He wanted to sever his province from the Empire, return to the old religions, and had a clear "Morrowind for the Dunmer" ideal (although he actually wanted to completely eradicate all none-Dunmer population in the province). Looking at some versions of the story told in Morrowind, he wasn't even the bad guy.
Cire27:
Also we have Alduin who is the son of a Divine.
While reading about the Aedra I came across this:
--- Quote --- In the Elder Scrolls universe, a "plane" and a "planet" are one and the same; that is, there is nothing in the mortal plane of Nirn except for the planet Nirn. What mortals see as the moons and planets are nothing more than the mortal brain's attempt to interpret the presence of the divine planes surrounding Nirn.
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Melodic:
--- Quote from: satsugaikaze on 14 Jan 2012, 17:56 ---So uh after about 148 hours into this game
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dude after 148 hours i don't care what you say, you either really like the game or live in antarctica.
LTK:
--- Quote from: snalin on 15 Jan 2012, 07:00 ---As to the divines, they are definitely active - see the end of Oblivion. According to lore, the eight are actually weaker than the other Aedra, their weakened state being because part of their souls went into shaping Nirn, the world. The ability of a human to rise to divinity or near-divinity is also apparent - Sotha Sill, Vivec, Almalexia and Dagoth Ur all did exactly that.
Actually, when reading about Dagoth Ur right now, I notice that his goals are very similar to the Stormcloacks. He wanted to sever his province from the Empire, return to the old religions, and had a clear "Morrowind for the Dunmer" ideal (although he actually wanted to completely eradicate all none-Dunmer population in the province). Looking at some versions of the story told in Morrowind, he wasn't even the bad guy.
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Okay, so given that Talos did rise to godhood, why is he connected to the Eight Divines? Because that seems what the Thalmor are miffed about; that 'our' gods are inferior to 'their' gods and shouldn't be considered of the same stature.
--- Quote --- In the Elder Scrolls universe, a "plane" and a "planet" are one and the same; that is, there is nothing in the mortal plane of Nirn except for the planet Nirn. What mortals see as the moons and planets are nothing more than the mortal brain's attempt to interpret the presence of the divine planes surrounding Nirn.
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That's interesting. We'd better hope neither plane ever develops spacefaring technology!
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