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Undercover Pteranodon:
Had to register just to tell you that I think that is the best post I have seen on these forums since "the break up", azurite. Hope you post more while I go back to lurking. ;)

iduguphergrave:

--- Quote from: azurite on 03 Dec 2010, 10:02 ---Why on earth would Veronica go whoop-ass on Dora?! It wasn't like Dora cheated on Marten, strung him along, or was abusive--she just couldn't deal with her insecurities about Faye (and gee, I mean, it's not like Marten was living with Faye or had a huge crush on her for any significant amount of time, it's not like everything they did socially as a couple had Faye in the room too, and we certainly saw Marten doing everything he could to make Dora feel like she was his first choice, like how they got their own place together to start fresh, and remember that amazing strip where he finally said "I love you"?.... Oh. Wait.) That's not so much hurting Marten as it is "being the other half of a relationship between two flawed people that ended with both people getting hurt." There's a huge difference.

Veronica's son is the one with his life stalled out on the shoulder. The only major changes in his life since her last visit have been switching from one dead end job to another and his relationship with Dora, which he just sort of fell into, and, then, subsequently fell out of. Dora's insecurities were over the top, but most of them did fall in line with the idea that she couldn't fully trust Faye or Marten. Faye did what she could to get Dora to trust her, and I think it's significant that Dora's first heart-to-heart after the breakup was with her. Marten, on the other hand, never seemed actively invested in their relationship. He'd have fun with Dora when she was in a good mood, and he'd do what he could to placate her when she'd freak out, but my overall impression was that he let Dora take charge of things--and because Dora's never been in a functional relationship, she wasn't going to see that as a problem.

He's drifting along, not committing to anything... not even the things he seemed to enjoy--seriously close to slacker territory. And didn't he end up on the east coast for similar reasons? I suspect Ms. Reed Is Coming To Town to talk some stuff out with her son. I hope. Because in all honesty, seeing a grown woman who'd previously seemed insightful and mature go all assault and battery on Dora, who is already hurting pretty terribly, that would pretty much terminate my relationship with this strip.  :|

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Marten never seemed actively invested in the relationship? Yeah I can agree he often let her take charge, but he put effort into their relationship, too. He was never distant with her or uninterested in her advances, wasn't afraid to be open with her, and when she suggested they live together, his first instinct was "I'd love it if you moved in!" (he only started to freak out a little when she suggested he move out and live with her alone, but it's important to note that his initial reaction was positive.) He bought her just-because presents. He wanted them to take a vacation together (after he won the bet with Hannelore's mom) Hell, he asked her why she hadn't taken him to meet her parents!*

Just because Marten's passive doesn't mean he's completely detached or uninterested; he was nothing but open and affectionate towards Dora.



*I can cite all the strips where these things happen if you want me to, I just didn't here because it would take forever

akronnick:
Do I think Mart-e-mom will visit horrific violence on Dora?

I do not.

Do I think that Dora will freak out when she finds out that Mart-e-mom is coming to town?

I do indeed.

Do I think the freak-out will be hilarious?

I do, I really do!

tHEfOOL:

--- Quote from: akronnick on 03 Dec 2010, 11:21 ---Do I think that Dora will freak out when she finds out that Mart-e-mom is coming to town?

I do indeed.

Do I think the freak-out will be hilarious?

I do, I really do!

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agreed 100%+ the crazyness that will ensue when dora finds out is bound to be quite the spectacle

Carl-E:
She needs nothing to fear but fear itself. 

And that's usually enough! 

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