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Marten's fundamental character
raoullefere:
How well does such a self-limiting form of conservatism (whatever the cause) fit in with being an 'indie' rock musician?
The only 'Republican' rock musician I can think of offhand is that psycho Nugent, who, so far as I can tell, isn't so much a conservative as a raving nutter whose insanity expresses itself in a manner that seems conservative, or at least what passes for such these days* . In other words, it doesn't limit him.
Naturally, there have been and are persons who find a well of creativity in the tension created between their imposed (and especially self-imposed) conservatism and whatever parts of themselves doesn't really fit those ideals. But if Marten, instead of suppressing his impulses, has managed to transfer them to Pintsize, that's not going to happen for him. The tension has been (at least up until now) diffused.
Incidentally, one little inconsistency has bothered me for a while now—that Marten pawned his guitar to move East, but either kept Pintsize or acquired him instead of buying an instrument. If Marten needs Pintsize for this diffusion, though, that could explain that course of action—the axe could go, but not the placebo (I'm not sure if that's the proper word, but it will do for now). Of course, in the process, I may be making Marten into "Corky" Withers** —in other words, a raving nutcase far beyond the likes of Faye or Dora or even Hanners. That's probably a little too extreme a reading of his character. But that's da breaks.
*I suspect Al Haig, for example, would've probably said go fuck yourself, you god-damned dirty hippie
**Anyone else remember the trailer for that film? It scared the bejesus out of me. And, thanks to the magic of Wikipedia, I discover I wasn't the only one. Of course, now I don't get it at all. What am I missing?
pwhodges:
Of course he had to keep Pintsize - Pintsize is family.
Carl-E:
Where I come from, that has a whole different meaning!
Raoullefere, ask Tergon about the ventriloquist dummy sometime.
You won't get a coherent answer...
Near Lurker:
--- Quote from: raoullefere on 08 Dec 2010, 07:09 ---The only 'Republican' rock musician I can think of offhand is that psycho Nugent, who, so far as I can tell, isn't so much a conservative as a raving nutter whose insanity expresses itself in a manner that seems conservative, or at least what passes for such these days* . In other words, it doesn't limit him.
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Alice Cooper... Meatloaf... Ice-T... Johnny Ramone... no one really "indie" comes to mind, though, and the first two are kind of vehemently anti-political, and the third is... not exactly a blue dog.
raoullefere:
Like you said, the first two are anti-political. I might add Frank Zappa to them. Ice-T, I don't know about. I forgot about dear old Johnny.
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 08 Dec 2010, 08:55 ---Raoullefere, ask Tergon about the ventriloquist dummy sometime.
You won't get a coherent answer...
--- End quote ---
I'm not sure I see the point of asking, then. I mean, if I could see him spew his drink, that'd be different.
pwhodges, are you trying to tell me there aren't those out there who'd sell their siblings to follow twu wuv's sparkly path? If Bella Swan had a sister, that kid'd be on the market before the poor girl could turn around three times.
Actually, looking at them from a critical standpoint, the Anthro-PCs are one of the most ambiguous parts of QC for me. Of course, on one level it's easy to accept them as pee-pul and close the book. But they're also a great deal of fun to consider as character auxiliaries (or perhaps symbiotic characters is a better term)—alternate manifestations of their owners, if you will. Momo is a particular favorite of mine to look at that way.
I think the way Jeph has incorporated them into the reality of the strip may very well be unique, too. I can think of numerous comics where animals, stuffed animals, toy robots and various other what-nots (like that potted cactus thing—I forget where that appears) fill this alt-character role, usually for adolescents, and of course strips with fully characterized robots abound—Star Wars and Lost in Space (and their sources) derivatives, for the most part, with the occasional fully Asmimovian sort thrown in. Jeph's AnthroPCs seem to walk a line between those two roles that fascinates me.
Did I just de-rail the thread?
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