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WCDT: 13-17 Dec 2010 (1816-20)
tHEfOOL:
Oh my god, the only reason i am still reading this is beecause i don't want to miss something that's actually noteworthy being said!
--- Quote from: Coffee_Kaioken on 15 Dec 2010, 20:58 ---how fucking continuous is this going to get
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I totally agree with this, are you people in middle school? no matter how many times you scream the same exact argument at each other, anyone who is gonna change their mind has either already changed their mind or is in neutral ground and not sure which side they are on so they won't change anyway. (I consider myself a Neutral)
So far we have this list of information:
Pro Faye
1. She has said no in the past and although she didn't expressly say it now her body langage did. so what marten was doing can be construed as harrassment/sexual harrasment.
2. Marten was being a bit of an ass-hat and probably deserved physical removal from Faye, whether she punched him or shoved him we don't know so it is off panel.
3. Marten may or may not have been going for a grope or a kiss, but with everything off frame, and with the STILL pictures we can't really tell. But if he was physical action on Faye's part is easily justified (be it a punch or a shove).
4. And just for the record, if Marten was implying that Faye owed him anything she didn't, she had made it perfectly clear in the past that they would never be more than friends and he had agreed to it. By most people's standards that discussion ended there and anything added is far after/off of the fact.
Pro Marten
1. Right now his life is a pile of shit, he's got a dead end job, he's not doing what he loves (music), and his girlfriend (while lately a hassle and a bit paranoid) dumped him because he finally manned up and stood up for himself.
2. He is incredibly drunk right now, as has been stated alcohol is a mind poison, it does not excuse his actions but with that much booze in his toothpick of a frame he is not thinking clearly, not to mention his behavior is totally out of character.
3. Faye was indead calling the kettle black when she walked in and talked down to him for being so drunk.
4. Faye probably coulda stepped back or to the side and he woulda fallen on his face with the state he was in.
5. Even though Faye could probably very successfully file charges of sexual harrasment on Marten, he could just as easily file charges of harrassment/assault against her for hitting/shoving/striking him.
So far they both aren't saints, now i beg of you with 8 pages of the same arguments shouted over and over read today, if you don't have something new to add to the conversation please just stop talking.
/rantbomb
mira:
--- Quote from: Overkillengine on 15 Dec 2010, 22:57 ---True, harassment law is generally more applicable to employment situations, as it was mainly created to keep scumbags from using access to continued employment/advancement as a form of extortion.
But in those situations, all it takes is one screw up or misinterpretation that in more than a few States to allow an employer to terminate you- and you have little to no recourse other than litigation that will likely go nowhere, and your career is already tainted.
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Or you have your own lawsuit to file. In any case, unless it's stalking, most "harassment" cases involve a work situation. In my classes on the subject we taught that harassment is not a single instance and in case law this is widely supported.
Rusty:
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--- Quote from: Rusty on 15 Dec 2010, 22:50 ---If i give you a dickbroom, is that sexual harrassment?
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That depends. Is the person eating at the time?
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is a frosty considered eating or drinking?
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Eating at first, drinking twenty minutes later.
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or blown up, in pintsize's case
Nodaisho:
How does anyone ever think a legal discussion pertaining to a comic is a good idea?
mira:
--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 15 Dec 2010, 23:00 ---How does anyone ever think a legal discussion pertaining to a comic is a good idea?
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LOL. I've had my bit to say about Martin and Faye and thought I could help cool the fires on the other topic. I guess I just saw the "is it harassment" debate and thought I could settle it since it's an area of personal expertise. But your point if pretty valid nonetheless. :)
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