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WCDT: 13-17 Dec 2010 (1816-20)
snubnose:
No comic ... no comic ... F5 ... F5 ...
OMG too much analyzation.
Then again, I participated at that yesterday.
mira:
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 15 Dec 2010, 23:34 ---I'm pretty sure this hasn't been posed, but has anyone brought of the double standard? For instance, let's say after Faye broke up with Sven, she got drunk. Really drunk. (She probably did, but bear with me) She then goes to Martin, who's still with Dora at the time. For whatever reason, she decides to make a move on Marten, and perhaps gets a bit handsy and makes similar comments that Marten made.
And Marten steps back and knocks her out. Is this acceptable? Fuck no.
Am I saying the situations are the same? No. But it's a little disturbing how people seem to think Faye's punching Marten was not, at the very least, a gross overreaction.
:psyduck: Psyduck agrees, I'm sure.
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I agree. And I think the law would too (in both scenarios-hitting someone is pretty flat out obvious and thus easy to prosecute-sexual intimidation? Not as much.) But I highly doubt these folks would call the police on each other. The strip has demonstrated they tolerate physical violence. I think it's interesting that Dora once told Faye her paranoia about all things male was a bigger problem than she realized (ie. Faye saw predators everywhere that were gonna grab her-even in Martin pre dinner with his mom). This may be the final realization of that problem for her.
Method of Madness:
--- Quote from: mira on 15 Dec 2010, 23:43 --- (ie. Faye saw predators everywhere that were gonna grab her-even in Martin pre dinner with his mom)
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I don't suppose it's a stretch to suggest that Faye's mom wasn't too helpful in this matter.
Razgriz:
--- Quote from: raoullefere on 15 Dec 2010, 23:37 ---
--- Quote from: Razgriz on 15 Dec 2010, 18:49 ---One thing to keep in mind is that Marten has been drinking alone while having reason to be depressed for, like, probably hours now since Hanners left. Meanwhile, Faye has been out making out with Angus. That set off my 'shouldn't you be with Marten? He's always been there for you' alarms yesterday and I'm sober and only thought about it for a minute. Poor guy's super drunk and had a long time to build up resentment. 'Why is Faye with Angus and not here' is a question that could reasonably lead a drunk person to reach the conclusions he has. Does that excuse his behavior? No. But really, Faye made out with Angus the whole night the day after an earth-shattering moment for her best friend. I don't know about you guys, but when bad things happen to people, friends are supposed to be there for them, not show up after hours of drinking alone and brooding to receive the brunt of their mood and then play the victim when their friend is mean.
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I don't think this is really fair to Faye. Recall, too, that Faye has been left sitting on her own in the dumps while Marten was out with Dora—in fact, as memory serves, that's what perciptated the whole karaoke—go to Sven's place—sleep with him thing.
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I seem to recall Marten being there for Faye any time she needed him. Literally any time. The Sven-cheating thing, the scared-over-Angus thing. Even after the first Dora-Kiss he went right to Faye and let her know, showing he cared about her.
Faye's reaction to Marten being in emotional peril for the first time ever was to cut her evening making out with Angus slightly short. Imagine if Marten's response to Faye being sad was 'that's nice, bye! Going to Dora's place'.
GrievousBodyguard:
--- Quote from: xerada on 15 Dec 2010, 17:33 ---I don't think we'll see concussions. Faye punched a lot more and way harder (it has to be harder to punch a non-drunk person to the ground) and we never saw anything coming near to the realistic consequences of such beatings.
I always felt the punches were overdone for comedic effect, otherwise Marten would never have stayed with her or just kicked her out of his apartment. Seriously, that would have been serious abuse, and their relationship could not have developed that way.
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You're probably right, but still, it wouldn't be the first time a character has had to deal with a concussion in the strip.
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