Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT: 13-17 Dec 2010 (1816-20)
jeph:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 16 Dec 2010, 02:13 ---It is probably impossible to avoid a forum such as this having a certain amount of over-analysis going on. It would in general be helpful if people would read enough of what's already been written to avoid simply repeating the same arguments, possibly already answered, which have been put before. And think three times before posting yourself.
The point about sexual harassment is slightly more complex, as some of us are in countries where, in some circumstances, and with people being sufficiently vindictive, Marten's behaviour could have been enough possibly to take him to court. Jeph may not be so aware of that (I'm guessing), and so sees that discussion as stupid, when there's actually a basis for it for some people.
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Oh, no, I'm well aware that in certain situations that could be construed as criminal behavior. But in this particular one I fail to see how any reasonable human being would define it as out-and-out sexual harassment.
Marten and Faye are best friends. They know each other incredibly well. There is no way Faye, at the point where she is right now, would EVER think Marten's actions were anything more than drunken idiocy. She tends to go overboard when punishing that idiocy, but I think today's strip makes it fairly obvious she doesn't think Marten would've raped her or something horrible like that.
The Dandy Inferno:
But Marten wasn't wearing a tie! I smell fallacy!
MillionDollar Belt Sander:
--- Quote from: jeph on 16 Dec 2010, 01:41 --- ...but if you honestly think something that (relatively) harmess qualifies as HARASSMENT I do not understand how you can get through your daily life without constantly suing people or pressing charges.
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I've worked with people like this at Harbec and Webster Tool And Die. They exist and they make life a living hell for everyone around them.
Imagine not being able to say "good morning, here is your work assignment" without being hauled into HR. "Unwelcome advances." Can't give them instructions, because everything you say is an innuendo and it makes them feel "uncomfortable" and creates a "hostile environment."
Frankly people who behave like that are the WORST sort of asshole and do not deserve employment.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: jeph on 16 Dec 2010, 02:15 ---But in this particular one I fail to see how any reasonable human being would define it as out-and-out sexual harassment.
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Sadly, there are unreasonable people in the world. Not so few, either. But agreed that you have given no reason the think that Faye could be among them.
But that part of the discussion simply moved on to different views of Marten's behaviour in the abstract, rather than what Faye's reaction would be. This may feel like over-analysis to you, but it's hard to avoid some subject creep.
jeph:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 16 Dec 2010, 02:13 ---It is probably impossible to avoid a forum such as this having a certain amount of over-analysis going on.[/i]
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For what it's worth, I don't care if people overanalyze things. I mean, I think it's stupid, and they're wrong 99% of the time, but that's kind of what forums are FOR. It's the stupid arguing, the creepy character-fetishization, and the "I hate character X no matter what and will drag this into every single discussion" idiocy that I have a problem with.
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