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WCDT: 13-17 Dec 2010 (1816-20)

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Skewbrow:

--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 16 Dec 2010, 01:44 ---Fuckin' owls man, you can't trust them. They're like green space-born Welsh ninjas.

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"The owls are not what they seem."

jwhouk:
If this is the bottom, what's the first step up?

Hungover apologies to Faye.    - 58 (39.5%) DINGDINGDING We have a winnah!
Marten puking on Faye.    - 14 (9.5%)
Marten puking on MOM.    - 12 (8.2%)
Mom believing Faye about the right hook.    - 9 (6.1%)
Marten puking on Pintsize.    - 3 (2%)
Marten throwing Pintsize across the room.    - 4 (2.7%)
Faye finding out Pintsize has her bras.    - 7 (4.8%)
Faye throwing Pintsize across the room.    - 1 (0.7%)
Dora finally "getting it" in therapy.    - 9 (6.1%)
Hannelore meets Mom.    - 18 (12.2%)
Other    - 12 (8.2%)

Total Voters: 147

DJRubberducky:

--- Quote from: lunakitten on 15 Dec 2010, 16:42 ---
--- Quote from: Somnus Eternus on 15 Dec 2010, 16:27 ---
--- Quote from: DJRubberducky on 15 Dec 2010, 15:24 ---(so far, the "nobody wants to rape a fat chick" fallacy is still holding, knock on wood). 

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Not just fallacy - outright lie.

Seriously, knockin' on wood along with ya, but yeah, better to be prepared.


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I'm gonna second that, being both a fat girl and a survivor of sexual assault. Please learn how to defend yourself. It might save your life.

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Okay, I anticipated at least one reply like this when I woke up this morning and thought back to it, and I've already prepared my remarks:

I will not apologize for my choice of words, because I believe anyone who knows or can find out what fallacy means could reasonably deduce that I know rape isn't like that.

I *will*, however, very deeply and whole-heartedly apologize for casually throwing around a phrase that would almost assuredly be a trigger for at least one person reading the forums.  I promise I really do try to keep those sorts of remarks to a minimum, even in jest, and I apologize for any hurt I inflicted by not catching this one.  And I will warn that I intend to explain triggers in my next few paragraphs, and I'll be using an example, so please be prepared.

For those of you who are blessed enough to not know about the concept of a trigger: There's a reason people label certain events as "traumatic".  These things mess with you.  Deeply.  And sometimes, in the course of getting on with your life after surviving a traumatic event, something else will happen that will remind you of that traumatic event, to the point where you begin to re-experience the memories or at least the feelings that accompanied it.  That something else is called a "trigger".  Survivors who share the details of their traumatic event will often preface such sharing with a trigger warning, because reading about (e.g.) a rape happening to someone else is a pretty easy way to be reminded of when it happened to you.

In the case of one of my previous posts, the statement that "no one wants to rape a fat chick" could very easily be someone's trigger, because while I know (and of course any full-bodied rape survivor knows) that such a statement is not true, there *are* still people in this world who genuinely believe it, and will tell such a survivor to her face that what happened to her could not possibly have been rape.  This simultaneously belittles her feelings, impugns her honesty and insults her appearance!  Seriously, if you want to kick someone while they're down, that's a really awesome way to do it.

Yes, I immediately followed the phrase with the word "fallacy" to indicate that I don't believe it, but I still could have done a better job of denoting that, or better yet have refrained from crediting my luck thus far to my size.  It was a glib remark that didn't add any value to my assertion, the joke did not need to be made to illustrate my point, and thus any hurt that I caused by saying it was truly unnecessary.

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On a related note: some folks here have said that Faye overreacted in punching Marten when a simple push might have sufficed.  Some of the same folks are wondering why there's been such a popular response of "Hell Yeah Go Faye" in reaction to said punching.  I will suggest, without any regard for how many other people have suggested it before me, that if one were to examine the populations of forum posters who have received such unwelcome contact and those who have not, and compare them to the populations of folks who believe Faye was justified in her violence and those who are not, there would be significant overlap.

(Another potential trigger - sorry!)  I fall into the former camp in both cases.  I was an early bloomer and got a *ton* of unwelcome attention in middle school.  There was one day in seventh grade that I was literally surrounded by a group of boys leering at me, and the only thing that made them stop was that I punched one of them in the dick.  I didn't get in trouble for it, and I never got cornered like that again, but boys would still leer and make grabs at my chest, and I went for quite a while with my fingernails cut and filed into points just in case.

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Finally, I would like to reassure anyone who was genuinely worried about my safety that I have taken self-defense classes, including the R.A.D. program offered through my workplace.  I've not been able to go back and re-take the drill in a while, but I am confident that if I am overcome by an attacker, it will not be due to my seizing in panic or not knowing what to do.  I've got that "transmute fear to anger" skill down pretty well.

jwhouk:

--- Quote from: tio on 16 Dec 2010, 01:36 ---That looks like a scar on Faye's right breast. Where is that from? Or am I just crazy?

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*Sigh*

Faye was in a car accident before she moved to NoHo.

She had a nervous breakdown (PTSS, probably) while driving the car, and it ended up upside down in an oak tree.

It was because of... Oh, geez, go read strips 307 through 510, okay? You'll "get it".

EDIT: Here:


* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=307
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=309
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=335
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=454
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=458
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=459 (The "Hieronymous Bosch" threat)
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=462
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=467 (The reason why we all want to see Ms. Reed)
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=488
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=492
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=500 and the next 10 strips, especially
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=505 and
* http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=506

GeoffTheLlama:

--- Quote from: LeeC on 16 Dec 2010, 00:23 ---can we stop comparing "who has the most compassion for a friend" dickhead points here?

they dont have to be equal, they are friends not acquaintances, and if marten really wanted her to be there while he began drinking he would have called or texted her saying "i could use a friend right now"

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This.  So much this.

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