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WCDT: 13-17 Dec 2010 (1816-20)
iduguphergrave:
--- Quote from: snubnose on 17 Dec 2010, 01:48 ---Hey, already Martens mom. I didnt expected her this week.
Yeah, the artwork is ... very different this time. Much less attractive, too.
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Yeah it's almost like she's an aging woman or something.
People were saying this during the broadcast too and it irks me; Jeph's able to draw her more how he sees her in her head, and it's realistic. How do you all think you're going to look when you're in your 50's? (I think it's reasonable to think that's where her age is) Cut the woman some slack.
And for the record, she looks fine to me.
StevenC:
That was one page ago, but there is something I want to say about that
--- Quote from: Yellowstone on 16 Dec 2010, 16:30 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 16 Dec 2010, 09:27 ---
You may want to take your own advice and go back to the very beginning of the comic, read the first, oh, 500 strips or so and then come back and seriously post that Marten did not start off in the comic as the stereotypical Nice Guy.
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Isn't one of the defining features of the Nice Guy (as opposed to the nice guy) that he wants romantic interest from a woman who is only interested in him platonically? If so, then I can't agree with your assessment, because it's made very clear that Faye was interested in Marten romantically. It didn't work out due to her issues, and they've both moved on from that romantic interest. Still, there's a big difference between thinking that a platonic friend owes you romantic interest, and hoping that a romantic friend will one day overcome her issues and pursue a functional relationship with you. Only the former is creepy; the latter is, at worse, hopelessly optimistic.
Citation time!
#64 - Steve is convinced that Faye is interested in Marten
#83 - Dora is convinced that Faye is interested in Marten
#118 - Faye creatively dodges the question of whether or not she's interested in Marten
#220 - Faye gets upset when Marten goes out with Dora on the double date with Steve and Ellen
#567 - Faye tells Marten that she's upset by the fact that it's him and Dora who wound up together, not him and herself
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You should distinguish between someone "wanting romantic interest from a platonic friend" and someone "expecting romantic interest from a platonic friend / thinking the other person owes you that"
I think many if not most people at least once fell in love with a good friend already. The difference here between the two things is the first will accept if the other person just wants to be a friend (even though he/she probably can't just shut off his/her feelings for the other one) while the second won't accept it, maybe start yelling, cut off contact or whatever else.
Aside from that, I agree that Faye did have romantic feelings for him and just didn't do anything because of her issues.
Pika_power:
--- Quote from: iduguphergrave on 17 Dec 2010, 02:37 ---
--- Quote from: snubnose on 17 Dec 2010, 01:48 ---Hey, already Martens mom. I didnt expected her this week.
Yeah, the artwork is ... very different this time. Much less attractive, too.
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Yeah it's almost like she's an aging woman or something.
People were saying this during the broadcast too and it irks me; Jeph's able to draw her more how he sees her in her head, and it's realistic. How do you all think you're going to look when you're in your 50's? (I think it's reasonable to think that's where her age is) Cut the woman some slack.
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That'd be a fair enough argument, but it's previously been stated by characters in-strip that she's attractive. Yes, she's not bad for someone who's 50-60. She's supposed to look good enough for Dora to still find her attractive. Considering she's still a porn star, it's not ridiculous to expect her to still look good. So far, that's assuming we haven't seen her before. But we have, and in the strips we did see, she was looking significantly better.
snubnose:
To me the definition of a "nice guy" is a guy who is only interested in longtime, true relationships, and not interested in one night stands and such.
Another term I heard for this kind of basic behavior is "real man". :-D In contrast to the playBOY. :wink:
Olymander:
--- Quote from: iduguphergrave on 17 Dec 2010, 02:37 ---
--- Quote from: snubnose on 17 Dec 2010, 01:48 ---Hey, already Martens mom. I didnt expected her this week.
Yeah, the artwork is ... very different this time. Much less attractive, too.
--- End quote ---
Yeah it's almost like she's an aging woman or something.
People were saying this during the broadcast too and it irks me; Jeph's able to draw her more how he sees her in her head, and it's realistic. How do you all think you're going to look when you're in your 50's? (I think it's reasonable to think that's where her age is) Cut the woman some slack.
And for the record, she looks fine to me.
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She looks mostly fine to me, the only thing I find bugging me is that her cheeks seem a little too puffed out. Basically her face looks a little fat. If they weren't quite so puffy, I'd be happier. But that's just an aesthetic nitpick.
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