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WCDT: 13-17 Dec 2010 (1816-20)
El_Flesh:
Whatever. It was advice as if he were a live person.
Advice isn't twisting an arm like you make it sound.
Don't want to cause any more waves so I'll leave it be.
cesariojpn:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 17 Dec 2010, 12:24 ---Ya gotta love Marten's mom. The things she'd do for her son. :-D
I'm looking forward to the bunfight that'll occur when she goes to see Dora
And I think she will.
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No, Faye will shit her panties first given what Veronica told her in the past, and then Dora will catch on pretty quickly whats up.
TRVA123:
Man, some of you talk about alcohol as if its evil incarnate and makes those who use it into the devils minions....
In my experience alcohol lowers inhibitions. In some people it makes inhibitions vanish. This is what causes people to "think they're alright to drive", because their usual warning bell isn't mentally going off. In other people alcohol brings to the forefront aspects of their personality that are usually suppressed, thus the angry drunk or the destructive drunk. The alcohol doesn't create these facets of a person, they're there all along.
I would also argue that a lot of people out there use alcohol as an excuse to not be responsible for their actions. People think, "I've been drinking, so it's okay to be a jerk" or to do something worse. Lowered inhibitions might tip someone in this sort of direction, but the person still is aware that they're crossing boundaries and deliberately chooses to disregard them because they can just say that they were drunk when confronted about it later.
That said, I do think that at the time Marten was drunk to the point of blacking out. While I think that what he said did come from some of his true feelings about his situation with Faye, what he said does not sum up all of his feelings about his situation with Faye.
Marten was probably thinking things like: "Where would I be now if Faye had been open to a relationship with me back before Dora? If I had been a more assertive person would we have gotten together? Has Faye been using me because I care about her? Why was Faye with Angus instead of comforting me? Now that Faye has a boyfriend am I going to lose my best friend?"
Marten's in a bad place, he's feeling insecure (and who could blame him, he just got dumped) and when you're insecure thoughts like these tend to multiply. Yes, most of them are ridiculous and unlikely, but that doesn't mean that we don't have them from time to time. If Marten were sober he would probably shut down these thoughts early, but when drunk Marten might not have been able to suppress his insecurities, leading to that conversation with Faye.
I hope that Faye brings it up to Marten again so that they can work past the things he said. Marten, if nothing else, needs to be reassured that his friendship with Faye is secure.
cuzsis:
--- Quote from: foolsguinea on 17 Dec 2010, 11:24 ---OK, that's just pathetic. Veronica shows up, looking...puffier than I recall, & all sadface, & offers to kill Dora to make Marten happy. Somehow I expected cooler.
Don't get mad, Jeph, I'm just weirded out. Apparently she's aged a lot since the pre-Talk days.
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Just her face though. I thought maybe she'd gone to the dentist or something.
Or is just really puffy eyed from the red-eye flight. That happens a lot.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 17 Dec 2010, 13:14 ---I do think that at the time Marten was drunk to the point of blacking out. [...] Marten was probably thinking things like:
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Have you ever been that drunk for real yourself? Thinking is not a suitable word for what remains of brain function at that point.
And again this idea appears (briefly) that releasing inhibitions exposes your true feelings. But your true self includes those inhibitions, for better or worse, and removing them means that your thoughts become unrepresentative of you.
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