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WCT Dec 20-24, 2010 (1821-1824)

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JackFaerie:

--- Quote ---You know what Dora really sucks.
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--- Quote from: iduguphergrave on 21 Dec 2010, 01:46 ---Yes.



(I swear I'm not a Dora hater but I'm kind of pissed at her right now)

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Why?  :-o They were not compatible and Dora had issues that were making a mess of their relationship to the extent that Marten had been dissatisfied for ages, so she ended it (and is gonna work on her issues now). The fact that Marten was apparently completely unable to end something that wasn't working for him (Dora was happy with Marten, if often insecure/jealous--Marten was the one sighing at night, getting more and more secretly bitter, and measuring Dora up against Faye & Angus), and also went totally off the rails after shows, in fact, how necessary Dora's decision was. Within their relationship, she was the dysfunctional one (and Marten shouldn't have put up with half her shit) but in retrospect it's being shown that Marten's totally codependent, and needs a lot of work himself.

gathayah:
Veronica is officially my favorite mother ever.

Wiregeek:
my anti-dora bias is clear, strong, and doesn't give a fuck.

However, I think Zadojla hit it on the head. I think it's gonna work, too, and I'm looking forward to seeing the explosion.


Wouldn't it be awesome if Dora walks up on/in on the explosion in question? Marten flailing his arms and screaming at the top of his lungs, opens the door and gets a face full of alien wing wong thrown pintsize.

"Goddamnit, what fucking NOW"

themacnut:
I don't know gathayah, if I were Marten by about this point I'd be seriously contemplating downing another fifth of bourbon, and damn the consequences (even as I endured the hangover/head injury from the last downing).

As for Marten needing therapy for codependency, I'm not sure he'll ever realize that or seek it out. Men tend to be more reluctant to seek therapy than women, something about it being an admission of weakness or something like that...

EDIT: not sure Marten's gonna blow up at his mother either. He's already nursing a head injury that tells him he said or did something horrible to Faye the previous night, and she won't tell him what. Just knowing that much probably makes him feel bad. Blowing up at his mother would be cathartic, sure, but he'll just end up feeling worse afterwards.

tbones:

--- Quote from: zadojla on 21 Dec 2010, 07:30 ---
--- Quote from: tbones on 21 Dec 2010, 06:46 ---[i wonder, isn't Veronica making things a little worse?
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I've done similar things to my now-22-year-old daughter.  The thinking is:

Kids don't listen to or take advice from parents.
The kid's mind is wrapped up in a loop, (We broke up, I feel like crap, what am I going to do?, I feel like crap, [repeat])
Any breaking of the "misery loop" is good.
Kids are always pissed off at their parents anyway.
Therefore, I will take any outrageous action to break the concentration on misery, without regard for consequences to me.

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Whoa, that seems really... rational actually,  so she IS really trying to improve things!

My respect for Veronica grew 10 times now  :psyduck:

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