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WCT Dec 20-24, 2010 (1821-1824)

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Somebody:

--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 21 Dec 2010, 10:57 ---"Grown up" versions of the anthro-pcs; Momo is in the same dream-form she used to seduce dream-Sven, Winslow looks sort like a male version of Eve from Applegeeks....

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Surely Winslow would be based on his robo-boyfriend mode...

JackFaerie:

--- Quote from: Wiregeek on 21 Dec 2010, 11:01 ---ending up with another woman who lies to him, about him, and about what she wants from him, then enforces a brutal double standard on him, and dumps him when he dares to say the first thing in his own defense.

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Exactly. And then he is all "woooeeeee is me whyyyyyy did she end it, I wanted to stay in a relationship with that emasculating psychobitch forever even though I hated how she treated me!" Something wrong, no? She didn't "dump" him though. She (fairly gently) ended it because it was obvious to pretty much anyone else (including everyone here going "omg he should dump Dora she doesn't even let him stand up for himself!") it was pretty over.

Wiregeek:

--- Quote ---She didn't "dump" him though.
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say what now?

Coco:

--- Quote from: Wiregeek on 21 Dec 2010, 11:01 ---Giving up his life and propoerty to move across the country after a woman who was saying "I don't want to live three thousand miles away from you", when she meant "I'm tired of you and I want some fresh dick", then ending up with another woman who lies to him, about him, and about what she wants from him, then enforces a brutal double standard on him, and dumps him when he dares to say the first thing in his own defense.

I suspect the 'truth' may be somewhere between these two extremes, however.

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Not to start World War Dora 2: Dora Boogaloo, but I don't remember her ever being anything less than truthful with Marten. I also don't remember her ever lying about him or trying to make him look bad. The only example of a double standard I can think of is the little fight about the hair, which even she admitted was stupid and a bit of new relationship jitters.
I am also wondering about your comment that Vicki was just looking for some “fresh dick.” I understand that we are supposed to sympathize with Marten, but I don’t think we need to turn his long term girlfriend who handled a break up pretty terribly into a heartless slut. Not every woman in Marten's life is evil, and he is no saint.

iduguphergrave:
I am seriously tired of people taking Marten's sigh in this strip out of context. People, that day he and Dora got into a major fight about bullshit, then resolved it, and then ran into the source of the fight just when they thought they were in the clear. Did you ever consider that maybe he was sighing just because he had a shitty day?

And I reject the premise that Marten was dissatisfied with his relationship with Dora. Other than "the sigh" (which is really too ambiguous to prove anything), what proof is there? The Toto strip? Marten's look there probably means unsettled confusion more than anything. Remember, he has no idea why Faye asked him about Toto, but it intrigued him. So he asks Dora, and gets a harsh answer and a brush-off. I think his look in the last panel is saying "What the hell does this all mean?"

Marten was always affectionate towards Dora; he was never distant or cold to her, they had a healthy sex life, he bought her "just because" presents. When she first hinted that she wanted them to live together, his first response was "I'd love it if you moved in! (he only started freaking out when she proposed he move out and they live alone together; it's important to note his initial reaction was positive) If he was truly dissatisfied with their relationship, he would have just let Dora go when she walked out here. Instead, he goes looking for her because he wants to talk it out. Not something someone who subconsciously wants the relationship to end would do.

Marten was fed up with Dora's double-standards and her jealousy, not with their overall relationship.

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