Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCT Dec 20-24, 2010 (1821-1824)
Kugai:
I don't think Marten has told Veronica anything but the truth about Hanners - embarrassing incidents and all.
Oh dear - is that as bad as it sounds? I hope not.
Hanners hair; It's alive, IT'S ALIVE!!!!! :-D
Crash stop of the week? Faye and Veronica in the same room.
Hooooooo boy!
jwhouk:
I suspect he told her how they met. Which should be weird enough as it is.
Dr. ROFLPWN:
--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 22 Dec 2010, 19:05 ---
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 22 Dec 2010, 03:33 ---Except those social skills classes kind of do not apply to the woman who gave birth to you and raised you from childhood, and applied to her they are pretty passive-aggressive. I guess if you have a really bad family situation that shit applies? Maybe? I don't want to fucking go into that. Marten, the person who matters here, has a mother who loves him and who walking off on would be shitty and childish.
It's also, to me, pretty clear Veronica was doing it to get a reaction and make him stop stewing in his own BLUH BLUH, which is what he wants to do.
If anything, Marten's reaction here is a good one--he goes "Mooooommm, GOD", and she goes "oh shhhh" and that is how things work because she's his mother.
If it was one of his friends doing this? Sure, walk away! But it's his mom.
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Actually, the only time those social skills classes work is with people that you are really close to. Otherwise you generally need to apply a firmer hand to not get walked on. And no, it still doesn't count as passive-aggressive. It still doesn't fit the passive part or the aggressive part. Aggressive would be threatening to go back home and drink another bottle of whiskey, passive would be not doing anything. Passive-aggressive would be not doing anything until he gets home, at which point he gets blackout drunk again. Asking politely but firmly for her to stop would be assertive.
Aggressive would also be pretty ironic, given that emotional blackmail is supposed to be how parents keep their children in line, not vice versa.
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It sounds to me like we are applying different standards to Marten's behavior! It also sounds to me like the way you think a child should interact with their parents and the way I think a child should interact with their parents are so different that it is like we are from two different planets, and I will drop the matter because I don't see this going in a constructive direction.
--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 22 Dec 2010, 19:05 ---If your parents think that the right way to make you feel better immediately after a rough break-up is making your day even worse, I'm very sorry.
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I didn't ever say that that was--what? I don't even know where you're getting that. What I said was that sometimes parents will embarrass you, and I implied that this was sort of a fact of life, and that maybe what Veronica did, by her standards, was pretty normal parental behavior. Again, though, we appear to have really different standards!
--- Quote from: Wiregeek on 22 Dec 2010, 15:49 ---WE Are Eternal...
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I keep picturing Randy doing the whole Sovereign dialogues from Mass Effect and it works too well oh God ;_; HE IS THE HARVESTER OF WORLDS
And to keep the top post kind of going in a not shitty direction, I'm pretty sure he's just told her anecdotes about this friend of his who does things like stay up 40+ hours and has really severe OCD and is from Space.
Kugai:
Randy is Sauron
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 22 Dec 2010, 19:05 ---That said, it's a comic. It's not supposed to be realistic.
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It's a comic, but it's one with what Malli_Kite called "internal logic". The characters don't do things at random. They have personalities, and their actions flow from those. They do things that real people might (or might do if they owned robots, that is).
For instance, in all the debate about the motives and wisdom of Ms. Reed's actions, nobody yet has said "no mother would ever do that!".
Which makes it absorbing to read, but also means that cartoonish exaggeration has an uneasy coexistence with psychological realism.
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