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WCDT Year End Edition Dec 27-31, 2010 (1826-1830)
xerada:
--- Quote from: themacnut on 28 Dec 2010, 04:08 ---He may decide to no longer endure this humiliation sober. That may be his breaking point, and he may be so "broken" that he may not care about possible consequences of another bender. Remember this IS a guy who has a habit of hitting the bottle when things go drastically wrong in his life...
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Your comment made me think, about how drunk he was because Dora broke up with him. Or when Faye told him she couldn't be together with him.
Why is that hitting him so hard, and why does he think drinking makes it better? He planned to get drunk. ALONE. (Yes, that makes it worse. If he'd started the emergency burbon with Faye, that would have been totally different).
While he did that, I don't think he will be hitting the bottle now, not with his mother and the girls around.
And what I noticed, too: I don't want to sound harsh, but this is what happened: Dora broke up with him. Woo, big deal. Yes, it's depressing, but it's nothing really drastic. Drastic would be discovering he or one of his family or friends had a severe illness or something, and I think his mother is right to try and lighten the mood with jokes and embarrassment and baby pictures (yes, I'd be angry out too if my mother did this to me, but at least I'd be angry, not moping).
Somnus Eternus:
--- Quote from: xerada on 28 Dec 2010, 04:47 ---And what I noticed, too: I don't want to sound harsh, but this is what happened: Dora broke up with him. Woo, big deal. Yes, it's depressing, but it's nothing really drastic. Drastic would be discovering he or one of his family or friends had a severe illness or something, and I think his mother is right to try and lighten the mood with jokes and embarrassment and baby pictures (yes, I'd be angry out too if my mother did this to me, but at least I'd be angry, not moping).
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I kind of disagree with his depression being a 'whoo, big deal' kind of thing. When you're in a long-term relationship and it just...ends like that, particularly the way that it did, it can feel like someone died. Hell, after my last break-up I cried for weeks and still had moments as far as six months out after where I'd find myself driving into work and some U2 song or something would come on the radio and the next thing I knew, tears were streaming down my face. He really loved Dora, and now she's gone.
That being said, I agree that his mom's totally doing the right thing in trying to pull him out of it, and I think Marten knows that. Even if he throws a hissy in the next storyline strip we see, he'll probably accept that she's just being Mom by the end of it. I don't see any reason why Veronica's behavior should push this into a whole melodramatic storyline at all.
I'd just be surprised if he didn't call his dad at some point for advice on how to deal with Mom. :wink:
Delator:
--- Quote from: xerada on 28 Dec 2010, 04:47 ---...I think his mother is right to try and lighten the mood with jokes and embarrassment and baby pictures (yes, I'd be angry out too if my mother did this to me, but at least I'd be angry, not moping).
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I'll let others address any other points, but I wanted to make a comment on this.
I agree that helping Marten may be the motivation behind Veronicas actions, and she certainly has her heart in the right place.
It seems to me though that Marten has routinely had to deal with the fact that the women in his life tend to use an emotional front when dealing with him to hide the reality underneath.
He's probably kinda sick of it...he probably thinks she should treat him like an adult instead of a kid.
Just my thought on it.
TheEvilDog:
I think this might be the moment when Marten breaks and the walls come crumbling down. The real question might be, what are we going to find once they're down? Simmering mass of anger and hatred about to blow, or another set of walls of quiet acceptance?
Put it this way, if its the former, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone was told a few home truths.
bhtooefr:
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 28 Dec 2010, 05:22 ---I think this might be the moment when Marten breaks and the walls come crumbling down. The real question might be, what are we going to find once they're down? Simmering mass of anger and hatred about to blow, or another set of walls of quiet acceptance?
Put it this way, if its the former, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone was told a few home truths.
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Here's a possibility that would tie a couple storylines together... I doubt Jeph would do it, but... suicide attempt? I don't think, given that Marten is pretty much the central character, it would be a successful one unless Jeph decided to end the comic soon, but a failed attempt would send massive shockwaves of drama through the entire cast. It'd be an interesting direction to see the story go. (Mind you, not the direction I want to see, just an interesting one.)
That said, the character development I've been seeing is Marten going more outward with his anger, rather than inward. Then again, drinking alone like that...
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