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WCDT Year End Edition Dec 27-31, 2010 (1826-1830)
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 28 Dec 2010, 06:07 ---I'm thinking the proposal by TED is too far out of character for Marten. C'mon, asking Marten to suddenly change and become serious and emo is like asking Weird Al Yankovic to do Shakespeare.
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I dunno, after the day his mother has just put him through, it might just be enough to cause Marten to snap. And that is what Marten does....Snap. He bottles things up, internalises his problems and his feelings until he does snap. We've seen it a few times, usually when he feels at his lowest. And right now I think there are some limbo-ists (is that right?) who feel kinda jealous about how low Marten is now.
Rancke:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 28 Dec 2010, 01:26 ---Is there no end to Marten's embarrassment? But will he fly into a rage, simmer resentfully, or just reach a state of mute acceptance?
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The appropriate response would be to tell Mom to lock up when she leaves and then walk out on her. Sadly, Marten is probably too nice a guy to do the right thing here. His mom really needs a sharp lesson. Such blatant disregard for her son's feelings is egregious.
What was the reason she visited, again? That's right, I remember. To make Marten feel better. Way to go, Mom!
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: ysth on 28 Dec 2010, 01:54 ---It looks just like a Telefunken U47.
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With leather.
[Ahem]
As for Marten snapping over something like this, it's not likely. This is something that's clearly happened before (or he wouldn't know which pic right off the top of his head after a nap). And we're talking about his mother, who's probably one of the sources of a lot of his repression. He learned to hold things back through her, not telling people what she really did for a living, dealing with the weird emotions of growing up in that kind of environment (in addition to not having a father figure through puberty), and though a transgression, this is really a pretty minor one!
I think we've seen the sum total of his response to this - "Goddammit, mom!"
Delator:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 28 Dec 2010, 07:39 ---I think we've seen the sum total of his response to this - "Goddammit, mom!"
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I think so too...
I'm worried she's the only one who can withstand the rage beam that's charging, but Marten's angry that she's trying to draw out a reaction, so he's specifically NOT reacting...and it's just going to backfire later.
*sets broom down*
:psyduck:
xerada:
--- Quote from: Andy147 on 28 Dec 2010, 07:20 ---
--- Quote from: Somnus Eternus on 28 Dec 2010, 05:02 ---I kind of disagree with his depression being a 'whoo, big deal' kind of thing. When you're in a long-term relationship and it just...ends like that, particularly the way that it did, it can feel like someone died. Hell, after my last break-up I cried for weeks and still had moments as far as six months out after where I'd find myself driving into work and some U2 song or something would come on the radio and the next thing I knew, tears were streaming down my face. He really loved Dora, and now she's gone.
That being said, I agree that his mom's totally doing the right thing in trying to pull him out of it,
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When I had a break-up vaguely similar to Marten's, I even tried telling myself "it's just a break-up, what's the big deal?" Didn't prevent several months of on-and-off depression.
I still don't see why "humiliating him, repeatedly, in front of his boss (and other friends)" is thought to be a good idea.
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I didn't mean to belittle feelings, it's just that the cause is for these feelings and actions is a little weak, in my opinion. (I mean, Marten got blackout-drunk. Doesn't-know-what-he's-saying-drunk. THIS drunk.)
Of course break-ups are depressing, and I, too, did fall in a big hole of depression and swinging moods and a whole lot of other stuff after my previous relationship failed. But my friends and family didn't put up with it. Of course they were sympathetic and tried to help me as much as they could, but they called me on my moods. Which (I think) was a good thing, because it made me see that while I'm allowed to have feelings and to express them, they have them, too. And sometimes they need me, because they have problems, too, and sometimes, these problems are much worse than mine.
It took me a while, though.
Besides that, I don't think they would have let me get drunk alone, if they knew what was going on.
To the topic of Veronica treating Marten that way: I'd be angry, if my mother did this to me. After a few "Mom, could you please stop that", I'd maybe do this passive-aggressive bullshit and would just walk away or something. It's not the best way of dealing with it, but at least she tries.
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