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WCDT January 3-7, 2011 (1831-1835)
michael28:
Bosch Paintings man, BOSCH! Why does the crazy chick with the dead dad gets promised to make her life a Bosch painting?
And the one, wich nuked (it's "torpedieren" in German, but I think dropping the A-Bomb fits better) her first healthy relationship because she's unable to get external help, gets a hug? Not even a dead glare or one of that sad, disappointed looks only women and especially moms can do.
I hereby demand more death glares combined with Murloc gurggling :D
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 05 Jan 2011, 00:37 ---As to the comic it is kind of hilarious how Dora seems to expect a violent retribution that no one is giving her. Everyone is instead being so supportive and kind about it that it's freaking her out. Meanwhile, everyone is telling Marten to suck it up, kid, while he fishes for hugs.
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Yeah, living up the gender stereotypes aren't we? The women is always the helpless damsel in distress.
The only thing where Marten should "man" up is get the heck out of this mess, telling that bunch to piss off, to get some time for himself. Seeing how supportive his "friends" are, I'd recommend canada. Become a lumber jack, but he lacks about 20 pounds of muscles to do that and don't break his back :D .
I don't know why Jeph tortures him that much, but nothing i didn't see before in comics or novels. Authors give the main protagonist a bad time, especially if the hero is a representation of the writer in the story.
It took 29years of strips and that shitty animated movies for Jon in Garfield to finally date the nice pet doctor.
I hope Jeph likes Marten more than that :D.
Typing that, I'm reminded, what Marten said before Faye knocked him out, about him helping crazy chicks, he likes so they can bang other dudes (or women if Tai ever gets lucky with Dora ^^).
Dr. ROFLPWN:
--- Quote from: themacnut on 05 Jan 2011, 00:54 ---
The Chew Toy/Woobie is not allowed to get hugs. We may WANT him to get hugs, but him not getting them adds to his overall Woobieness.
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I think it's more being played for ironic humor, albeit in a very subtle way. Neither party is getting what they want. Dora wants her feelings of self-anger and guilt and such validated but she gets affection and understanding. Marten wants to be coddled and instead he gets tough love.
It's hard, Marten. Being a kid and growing up.
It's hard and nobody understands.
pwhodges:
Spot on.
themacnut:
The real irony is how Dora is being made more and more sympathetic with every appearance since the breakup. You can't help feeling just as sorry for, or even sorrier, for her than Marten even though Marten's the one who got dumped. I suppose it's only fair, since Dora's gotten a fair amount of boos and hisses (and quite a few 'great for Marten') sentiments since the dumping, so Jeph's naturally going to try to raise sympathy for her.
I just wonder if Marten's going to risk setting foot in CoD again to confront his mom if he figures out where she's gone. Let's not forget, that the norm for many people after a breakup is to never see their exes again, it's easier than dealing with the discomfort of moving past the breakup to build a platonic relationship. And not seeing Dora again wouldn't impact Marten's social circle much-he'd still see Faye and Hannelore, since they live in the same building, Steve is more his friend than Dora's anyway, and Tai would still be his boss and work buddy. He just wouldn't set foot in CoD anymore, nor would Dora be coming to his apartment.
michael28:
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 05 Jan 2011, 01:23 ---
--- Quote from: themacnut on 05 Jan 2011, 00:54 ---
The Chew Toy/Woobie is not allowed to get hugs. We may WANT him to get hugs, but him not getting them adds to his overall Woobieness.
--- End quote ---
I think it's more being played for ironic humor, albeit in a very subtle way. Neither party is getting what they want. Dora wants her feelings of self-anger and guilt and such validated but she gets affection and understanding. Marten wants to be coddled and instead he gets tough love.
It's hard, Marten. Being a kid and growing up.
It's hard and nobody understands.
--- End quote ---
I think it's more about what Marten doesn't want, first, he doesn't want to get pissed on on a regular basis by his social circle. And that's what's happening right now. He didn't want his relationship to end and he didn't want Dora to take the easy way of flight.
Not even Dora wanted their r. to end, but she wasn't capable of getting help before launching the icbm and now she's short of dying her hair black, start cutting her forearms (remember if you want to do it right, go along the road not across!) and listen to sad emo music.
Both need a swift kick to the rear (with steel capped ass kicking boots), or their sad, sad membership cards to the Emo-Club.
Even the arc about Faith working through her dad's suicide was more ironic and humorous than that current story line, and there are lightyears of disctance between witnessing the death of a loved one where your worrying about the cirumstances and breaking up because of the eternal happy relationship syndrom of a couple of mid-twenties (near-30s).
@themacnut
Dora got 1 death glare and a don't-you-dare-to-wallow-in-self-pity-it's-your-own-fault speech from Faye (and a forced therapist session, which I want to see soon) the reast were nice hugs, and so on . Marten instead was the target of pranks, got knocked out because of something interesting he said, while beeing drunk, has his mom who forced a visit on him around, who embarasses him in every second panel. Maybe that's the reaction of Jeph, for the crowd of supporting Marten an hating Dora, but I still think, Marten could use a hug way more than Dora.
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