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WDCT 10-14 January 2011 (1836-1840)
AngryCallCenterAgent:
GAWDDAYUM, getting shot down by the mother. Speaking of which, wonder what Faye's mother would think if they did hook up?
Heliphyneau:
--- Quote from: Kazukagii on 12 Jan 2011, 00:16 ---I'll just relax over here on my little yacht, eat popcorn and watch the incoming shipping battles a few nautical miles away. Anybody else anticipating a shit storm incoming and wanting to watch from the sidelines, you're more than welcome to join me. Beer's in the fridge, extra chairs in the closet below deck.
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You're gonna need a bigger boat.
*grabs a beer and a chair*
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 12 Jan 2011, 01:32 ---Oh God Faye's face is fucking priiiiiiiceless last panel.
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Hell yeah it is. :-D
--- Quote from: westrim on 12 Jan 2011, 04:19 ---Mothers are supposed to be motherly; there's a reason that is a word, with the definition it does.
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Yup, it's called 'being a stereotype.' Individuals vary, and that includes those who happen to have spawned progeny.
--- Quote from: Delator on 12 Jan 2011, 09:16 ---...I also have a new Theory Which Shall Not Be Named.
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I know what your theory is, and I hope you're wrong. :wink: In any event, we'll find out what the deal is when Jeph's good and ready to show us.
*shuts up; munches popcorn*
Cybit:
1) Veronica may not have (and probably doesn't) have any idea of Faye's self-esteem issues. So, her comment isn't out of line without that knowledge
2) She's kinda right, all things considered. Faye would just roll over Marten all the time, non-stop. It would be a nightmare. (Obviously not out of ill-intent, but just based on their respective personalities...)
3) I think if Veronica is as crafty as everyone is thinking...I think she's shaking things up on purpose. Marten has a comfy little life, sure, but if she is being canny about all of this, she's shaking things up to get him out of his rut. Make him focus on other things changing besides just the relationship.
leahneedsanap:
--- Quote from: Cybit on 12 Jan 2011, 08:19 ---Unless...Faye really isn't sure. Right now, Marten functions as her emotional boyfriend, for lack of a better term. Their friendship is basically Marten doing all the boyfriendly emotional things (being there for her when things go bad, etc etc), but with none of the physical aspects (except the occasional hugging). Veronica may have picked up that while as Faye is dating Angus, Faye *needs* Marten. As a mom, it's hard to see your boy struggling with being alone and lonely, when you realize his roommate / best friend is using him (perhaps in Veronica's eyes) as an emotional boyfriend.
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Really? So a lady can only be emotionally close with a dude if they are a couple, otherwise she's "using" him? Faye has become a significantly better friend to Marten over time. She was a supportive sounding board over Dora moving in (which she would not have been supportive of if she was in some sort of "emotional monogamy" sort of mindset about him), stopped being bothered by them being affectionate in front of her, lets him sound off about things. Sounds like the relationship I have with ALL of my closest friends, male or female. Yeah, she punched him after the break-up--when he was drunkenly trying to assault her, which is pretty much what is going on when a someone lumbers at you acting entitled to your body when you are saying no. She respected Marten's wishes by not raging on Dora. Before the breakup, during the porn conversation that precipitated it, Faye was clearly joking around and was as shocked as Marten was when Dora took it too far, and then clearly felt bad she'd played a role. Marten called her "pretty much my best friend," so he clearly sees there as being a reciprocated bond. Yeah, Marten doesn't open up to her as much as she does to him, but he doesn't open up a whole lot to anyone--even his girlfriend. When Marten is having an existential question, he mostly keeps it to himself unless asked. If Marten is getting "used" by Faye, then Sven gets "used" by Wil.
Then again, if you are just stating what you think Marten's mom is thinking, and though I would find it highly unlikely that a successful sex worker isn't able to see nuance when it comes to varying types of intimacy and relationships, it would still make my misogyny-rage misplaced, for which I apologize and offer you up a psyduck :psyduck:
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: leahneedsanap on 12 Jan 2011, 12:25 ---Then again, if you are just stating what you think Marten's mom is thinking, and though I would find it highly unlikely that a successful sex worker isn't able to see nuance when it comes to varying types of intimacy and relationships, it would still make my misogyny-rage misplaced, for which I apologize and offer you up a psyduck :psyduck:
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Thats what worries me. Veronica is/was supposedly one of the most successful fetish models and dominatrices in the world. By definition, a dominatrix is supposed to be able to read people, developing in their own way, skills similar to a psychologist or pyschiatrist, so they know how people work, what their limitations are and how far you can push them. Veronica should be able to read people, otherwise she wouldn't be as successful as she is now, so why is it she's going out of her way to humiliate her son, insult his best friend and comfort the one who dumped him? Is she blinded by the fact that Marten is her son? Or is she unable to quite seperate her dominatrix persona from her motherly one? Or is this some sort of roundabout plan to help Marten? How? By breaking his confidence and grinding it into nothing?
I said this last week, but I do feel the need to say it again, whatever Veronica has in mind, she is serious danger of damaging her own relationship with Marten.
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