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bhtooefr:
Reduction in resource consumption, ease of socialization (and networking), the ability to not have to drive half an hour to do anything, concentration of employers, more culture than country music, national chain restaurants, and hunting clubs (nothing wrong with hunting clubs and older country, but...)?

There's a reason why urbanization is increasing.

GarandMarine:
Every time I live in a city it's a race against time to see what happens first. Killing myself or being able to move somewhere civilized. Also I find less small restaurants then chains in Urban areas, you might get more varieties in your chains however...

I honestly can't comprehend the desire to live in one of America's various urban hell holes.

Dalillama:
Indeed, the most of American cities are pretty poorly designed.  That was the gist of my initial comment, in fact; that, given the imperative nature of urbanization, it would pay great dividends were we to devote more thought and resources to building urban areas that don't suck.  Portland, Oregon (where I live), NYC, Minneapolis (so I hear), and surprisingly (to me anyway) Chicago are examples of same.  Also Seattle and a few other places, to an extent. 
--- Quote from: bhtooefr on 13 Oct 2014, 16:12 --- national chain restaurants

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I spit on your national chains, from a great height.  I can walk five minute from my home and pass half a dozen local eateries.  Downtown, where I work, I'm within 4 blocks of two separate food cart pods, which stretch for blocks and have literally (sic) dozens of different food options, from nearly as many different cultures.  That's not even mentioning the coffeeshops, which may outnumber the eateries; it's hard to say. 

GarandMarine:
I have been to every city you just listed except Portland and they ALL suck. Especially NYC. I've seen more appealing landfills. That smelled better come to think of it.

hedgie:
Hmm.  I know that GM hates SF (a place weird enough were I actually feel at home), but I haven't been to many US cities.  Madison, WI is pretty cool, even if the winters are a wee bit cold.  Other than those, I've been to more European cities.  I can't stand to be in small towns, since it seems that the only culture is of the bacterial nature.

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