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BlueMark:
IMHO casting Grace Park is always a good idea. But it would be a shame to have lost Jewel.

I suspect that had the series lasted more than a half season, Joss would have explored beyond the backward (American) Outer Worlds and we'd have seen more of the Asian side of the Alliance. There are some rumors that Daniel Dae Kim, who had a recurring role on Whedon's Angel was considered for a recurring role on Firefly had the series continued.  

Akima:

--- Quote from: Carl-E on 07 Mar 2011, 05:11 ---It really sounds like something broke in Firefly's creation, and if I ever do  see it, the racial makeup will certainly be in my thoughts, rather than just being a nagging feeling at the back of my mind that something's wrong.
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Then my work here is done. :-) 

snubnose:
Err, I am astonished that anyone would bash Firefly.

Also for all the wrong reasons.




--- Quote from: Akima on 02 Mar 2011, 21:58 ---[...] I can rarely resist an opportunity to slam Firefly for its ignorant and pointless ripping off of Chinese language and culture. And the fact that only one East Asian actor was given any lines. In one episode in the entire series. In a minor role. As a prostitute. Yes, I am prejudiced by Firefly's neo-colonialist (to put it generously) attitude that "stuff" from China, Japan etc. is cool (though not so much that they get it right of course), but the people are not. [...]

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I never met anyone before who believed that Firefly, just because it contains some Mandarin dialogue, would be about China. The severe lack of asian actors is kind of a hint there. Also, if you just watch the series and have no idea how Mandarin sounds, you never get any clue the language is Mandarin, or rather is supposed to be Mandarin.

For according to sources in the internet, its spelling is so badly that real chinese people have a very hard time understanding it. But guess what, its the same for german dialogue spelled by american actors when I watch the english movies. For example, "True Blood" contains some "german" dialogues. Spoken by american actors who obviously really have no clue about german, only kind of repeat the sounds they learned. And yes, theres no germans in True Blood, either.

So do I complain that True Blood says germans arent cool ? Nope, that idea never crossed my mind. Granted, if you choose to include Mandarin or german or whatever in your movies, you might want to make sure the spelling is accurate. Simply for the coolness factor.

Again, you're saying that: if a movie contains anything chinese, it has to be about China. I dont follow this logic. I never viewed the spoken Mandarin in Firefly being anything else but fluff. In fact I didnt knew what it is before I read about it from secondary sources.

Also, you might want to watch the cinema movie. The main villain there is chinese (well, asian - its not like I would be able to tell the difference between a chinese, a japanese, or a person from, say, Taiwan), and I dont think he lacks anything in respect of coolness.

snubnose:
Ouch.

Much written in this thread ...

... no time right now to read that all.

Akima:

--- Quote from: snubnose on 08 Mar 2011, 01:41 ---Also, you might want to watch the cinema movie. The main villain there is chinese (well, asian - its not like I would be able to tell the difference between a chinese, a japanese, or a person from, say, Taiwan), and I dont think he lacks anything in respect of coolness.
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Assuming you mean the Firefly-sequel movie Serenity, are you talking about the Operative?  The character played by Chiwetel Ejiofor?

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