Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT

Firefly and/or Joss Whedon

<< < (17/18) > >>

Odin:

--- Quote from: tuathal on 09 Mar 2011, 00:55 ---Half the time, TV shows can't even get American culture right, and you expect them all to exhaustively research everything about another culture before they refer to it?


--- End quote ---

America has no unique culture of it's own, though. We are the mutt country with bits and pieces of culture borrowed (or usually stolen) from everybody else.

Akima:

--- Quote from: hannahsaurusrex on 09 Mar 2011, 00:53 ---It may not be a race but it's a culture, and I still get mad that people have to change their name to get jobs.
--- End quote ---
Then I apologise. You do get it. I wouldn't notice what media get wrong about Jewish religion and culture, because I'm simply far too ignorant about them, but I will take your word. Please be as ready to accept my attitudes towards depiction of Chinese people and Chinese culture. Just imagine an alternative version of Firefly where the Chinese cultural references were all replaced with Jewish ones; where an entirely non-Jewish main cast cursed in badly-pronounced Hebrew; where badly-written "Hebrew" signs with upside-down, back-to-front, and just plain wrong letters were scattered around; where actual Jewish people were kept in the background as extras dressing and acting in a very stereotyped way, with the exception of one minor character part (a prostitute) in the entire series. If that would upset you, please accept that the real Firefly upsets me just as legitimately.


--- Quote from: akronnick on 09 Mar 2011, 00:47 ---I know this may sound a bit like "Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" but... Other than the cultural issues, (which I totally see your point about, I just watched the first disc of the series and now that I'm looking for it, I can really see watch your saying) Akima, what did you think of Firefly.
--- End quote ---
There are some scenes and acting in the show that are among the best things I think I've seen on TV. Some of the stories are very good, some are duds, but that's pretty standard. The dialogue is very Whedon; sometimes clever, more often way too cutesy to be credible. Above all, Firefly strikes me as the product of a brainstorming session where Whedon and his team threw together a bunch of cool ideas (Cowboys! Horses! Spaceships! Chinese stuff! Japanese stuff! Old-West fashions! Kimonos! Space geishas!) but never really thought them through or integrated them into a cohesive imaginary world. The casting certainly did not support the world-building either. No amount of clever writing (and the writing was not always clever) or great photography, or good acting, could fully paper over the structural flaws to the point I could really believe in it. I know Firefly was cancelled early, but I think the show was in trouble before the first episode was shot. Overall, I was disappointed by the massive squandered potential.

snubnose:
Uh, for the record, I dont like chinese things too much, so nope, chinese things arent "cool by definition" to me.

To summarize that nations history in a few sentences:
- Believed themselves to be the "best" nation of the world.
- Therefore they cut themselves off from the rest of the world.
- After centuries of isolation, they came back and, surprise, they were now behind.
- Now they're coming back they apparently start to have the same "we're better than anyone else" arrogance as before.

Add to this:
- Dictatorship and a general disregard for human rights.
- More men than women because of one child per family and resulting systematic abortion of girls.

Really, I like India much more.

Odin:
And people accuse me of trolling.

Carl-E:
Odin:  Not lately, you actually explain yourself a lot more, it makes a huge difference. 

Snubnose:  I don't even know where to begin... but never, never, NEVER  preface your incredibly shortsighted and bigoted cultural opinions as "history"! 

It only shows everyone how little you really understand about the world around you. 

I need a smiley that's shaking it's head in dissapointment...

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page