Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 7-11 March 2011 (1876-80)
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 11 Mar 2011, 06:43 ---Thanks, Carl-E. I was just thinking that. Although I think it was a few strips earlier in the arc that was more or less proof.
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True, but you have to go further into that arc to find her smiling and relaxed. I think that's a big part of it - she stops being so self conscious!
bicostp:
--- Quote from: snubnose on 11 Mar 2011, 06:45 ---We also know that Raven must have been very hot. She has a full book of potential one night stands.
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However we know she had to put effort into getting (back?) to that point. According to Dora, when she was in college she was heavier and got no attention thanks to a lot of "french fries and sulking", so she made the conscious decision to get back into shape and take better care of herself, then she started getting attention again. (Archive experts help me out please; I think it was said in or around Marten and Dora's first date, probably in the early-mid 600s?)
A reason to take her off the bus for a while, perhaps? :mrgreen:
CaptainFish:
I wonder if some of this is an art issue.
Here marigold looks perfectly fine in tight fitting clothing, so I assume that she's not overweight. She doesn't even look flabby.
We only assume she looks that way from her lifestyle and her opinions. From a straight depiction the only issue I see is a few pimples and blackheads, and that doesn't actually stop anyone from being pretty.
We're left with the sense that Mare-Bear has an extremely poor opinion of herself for literally no reason, when there is probably a little truth to her self-doubt. I'm not saying her self-image issues aren't irrational, but perhaps they aren't completely unwarranted
Odin:
Yeah, today's comic sounds very familiar, I will say everyone arguing over whether Marigold is ugly or not is full of shit because it doesn't matter. In this case, God (Jeph) has dictated that Marigold believes herself to be ugly (her friends don't make very convincing arguments to the contrary and give up far too quickly), so she is ugly.
Case closed, really.
Carl-E:
Hmmmm... I suppose there's some credence to the "you are what you perceive yourself to be" theory, but really there's nothing about her that's objectively "ugly" (whatever that means - I think I'm talking about horrific scarring or disturbingly disproportionate features). So yeah, she's ugly because she thinks she is, and projects herself that way.
Which can change - not instantly, but at the core there's nothing preventing her from changing it.
What we've got here is a serious battle between "perception is reality" vs. "appearances can be deceiving", and they're both fighting dirty.
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