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WCDT 7-11 March 2011 (1876-80)
Dr. ROFLPWN:
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--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 11 Mar 2011, 08:10 ---@Odin: Well yeah, from the perspective that matters, her own, she's an ogre, but also see Carl's argument, cause he worded it better. I'm too busy tripping over all this goddamn "you cannot perceive what the characters in a visual medium actually look like" horseshit.
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This isn't a question of perception, since Marigold doesn't have any actual free will here (she is going to do exactly what Jeph makes her do), though.
In this instance, Jeph is dictating that Marigold is actually ugly. Look again at how quickly Dora and Hannelore dropped their arguments (shitty as they were to start with).
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....Th--I don't even. I'll give you the Jeph-determinism, I guess, even though it's a stretch? But the leap that Marigold is actually ugly because Jeph has dictated that she perceives herself as ugly and all that is just as dumb as snub's idea. I....just...fgsfds :psyduck:
Is it cold in here?:
Marigirl is plump, anyway. Her belly hangs out over her waistline. Her nose size exceeds conventional standards.
The reference to Raven's weight struggles is #562.
The way Jeph draws each character varies, but his intent doesn't change as fast. In the "Fat Faye" thread, he said that Faye was consistently attractive to the other characters, over a time period where her appearance on screen changed a lot.
Hannelore doesn't seem like the sort to engage in disingenuous flattery, and she was the first to say Marigirl is pretty. So I think that's what Jeph is trying to convey, that she's a diamond in the rough.
Kugai:
Sounds to me that if anyone else in the CoD Universe needs Therapy, it's Marigold. She really has some self-image issues.
Odin:
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 11 Mar 2011, 09:27 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 11 Mar 2011, 08:14 ---
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 11 Mar 2011, 08:10 ---@Odin: Well yeah, from the perspective that matters, her own, she's an ogre, but also see Carl's argument, cause he worded it better. I'm too busy tripping over all this goddamn "you cannot perceive what the characters in a visual medium actually look like" horseshit.
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This isn't a question of perception, since Marigold doesn't have any actual free will here (she is going to do exactly what Jeph makes her do), though.
In this instance, Jeph is dictating that Marigold is actually ugly. Look again at how quickly Dora and Hannelore dropped their arguments (shitty as they were to start with).
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....Th--I don't even. I'll give you the Jeph-determinism, I guess, even though it's a stretch? But the leap that Marigold is actually ugly because Jeph has dictated that she perceives herself as ugly and all that is just as dumb as snub's idea. I....just...fgsfds :psyduck:
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I'm talking about both physically and mentally/emotionally ugly, to be clear.
No one that is constantly self-derogatory like Marigold is ever ends up being seen as attractive, ever.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 11 Mar 2011, 10:21 ---Marigirl is plump, anyway. Her belly hangs out over her waistline. Her nose size exceeds conventional standards.
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Plump's OK, the problem is that she thinks she's fat. As for the nose, it's not really size so much as shape. Looking back, it's what's called aquiline. Not enough to be a beak, but definitely a prominent bridge (as oposed to the ski slope my glasses continuously slide down). In Marigold's case, the result is nearly perfectly triangular, much different than everyone else in the comic. The only other really unusually shaped nose in the cast is Angus', with its slightly bulbous end.
Oh, and Wil has a fair sized bridge, but the rest slopes, giving it that waterslide look. Sort of like an adam's apple of the nose.
--- Quote ---she's a diamond in the rough.
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Shame all she sees is a lump of coal...
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OK, I will.
Odin; thanks for clearing that up. But self image can change. Like Kugai says, it may need therapy, or at least some friends to clear your vision.
Then again, if she actually gets straightened out, we'll lose some of teh funny.
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