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WCDT 7-11 March 2011 (1876-80)
Skewbrow:
--- Quote from: iduguphergrave on 11 Mar 2011, 12:34 ---Shes got an itty bit of a belly as can be seen here and here. Personally I think it makes her look cuter. ^_^ She's just a little zaftig
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May be zäftig is the word? I thought it means something a little bit meatier than what is showing in those strips, but whatever :-).
I can't help feeling that the little love handles showing in the strips you cited are not really there! The little plump is just her hip points that are showing because she's wearing a pair of those ridiculously low hanging pants that fail to cover her underwear.
Hmm. On second thought may be that kind of pants only look ridiculous on me? The inevitable cleft ...
Carl-E:
While she is wearing her pants a bit low (a style I just don't understand or find comfortable, but try finding jeans that aren't cut that way anymore), there's a bit of a belly/love handles showing in the respective strips. Nothing out of the ordinary, though - I personally find people without 'em look a bit odd and malnourished... you really can't have boobs of that dimension without a fairly decent layer of adipose tissue, which will also give you accentuated hips and other, softer curves.
And my understanding of zaftig (same as zäftig, we are umlaut-lazy in the US) is that it means pleasantly plump, nothing mean is intended. Of course, that may have changed in the thin-obsessed world we now live in. My references for beauty go back to those 70's playmates Sven was going on about... no ribs, hip bones or six-packs showing there!
"Love is not love that alters when it alteration finds..."
reboundstudent:
Okay can we just please knock it off with the "oh if she just exercised and wore make-up she'd realize she's pretty!"
Sometimes... people are just ugly.
I consider myself very similar to Marigold. I have a "curvy"/fat body (bust: 35 1/2, waist: 32 1/4, and hips: 36 3/4, height 5" and weight 123), mousy brown hair and a large prominent nose. I've heard it ALL... that if I dressed better, wore make-up, smiled!, then suddenly I'd be beautiful.
Well I'm doing those things. I wear make-up every morning, I work out three days a week, I take a shower every day, wash my hair, wear it back from my face, have at least some semblance of style (jeans, blouse, and boots with some heel) and ya know what, I'm STILL not pretty. I STILL don't have guys paying attention to me or people treating me any differently than when I was ten pounds heavier in high school and thought a cup bra was some ancient torture device.
Sometimes, people are just ugly. You can make an ugly person passable, but ya can't make em pretty (not by societal standards, anyway.) Is it really low self esteem to point that out??
Carl-E:
I doubt you're nearly as ugly as you think you are. However, just because you're not beating them off with a stick doesn't mean you're ugly. It's the next to last sentence that's most telling...
--- Quote from: reboundstudent on 11 Mar 2011, 15:40 ---You can make an ugly person passable, but ya can't make em pretty (not by societal standards, anyway.) Is it really low self esteem to point that out??
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Societal standards are bullshit, but they're how you're judged by society. They also change over time and from one culture to another.
So yes, it really is low self-esteem, to a certain extent. Society says you're not pretty, and that shifting "standard" makes you feel like shit about yourself. You may feel that you've "accepted" this, but that doesn't mean you don't have low self esteem about your looks. Self-esteem isn't self imposed, despite the name.
Then again, maybe you really are ugly. Damned if I know... :angel:
iduguphergrave:
--- Quote from: reboundstudent on 11 Mar 2011, 15:40 ---Okay can we just please knock it off with the "oh if she just exercised and wore make-up she'd realize she's pretty!"
Sometimes... people are just ugly.
I consider myself very similar to Marigold. I have a "curvy"/fat body (bust: 35 1/2, waist: 32 1/4, and hips: 36 3/4, height 5" and weight 123), mousy brown hair and a large prominent nose. I've heard it ALL... that if I dressed better, wore make-up, smiled!, then suddenly I'd be beautiful.
Well I'm doing those things. I wear make-up every morning, I work out three days a week, I take a shower every day, wash my hair, wear it back from my face, have at least some semblance of style (jeans, blouse, and boots with some heel) and ya know what, I'm STILL not pretty. I STILL don't have guys paying attention to me or people treating me any differently than when I was ten pounds heavier in high school and thought a cup bra was some ancient torture device.
Sometimes, people are just ugly. You can make an ugly person passable, but ya can't make em pretty (not by societal standards, anyway.) Is it really low self esteem to point that out??
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Ok wow way to completely miss the point. Marigold isn't stunning but good christ she isn't ugly! And granted I skimmed a few of these comments but I don't think that's really what anyone was getting at. Dora isn't saying Marigold needs a makeover because she's ugly, but because she doesn't know how to show off what she's got, not to mention the confidence boost that often comes with changing one's image. She isn't ugly, dear, and I'm willing to bet that you aren't, either!
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