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WCDT 7-11 March 2011 (1876-80)
Method of Madness:
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--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 11 Mar 2011, 18:08 ---Creative people on good days report that it feels as though their characters have free will and do things the authors weren't expecting, at least not consciously.
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Plus, you could argue that we have no more free will than they do...but that's probably for another thread.
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The difference between us and Jeph's characters is that there is quite literally no god pulling our strings. Non-religious Determinism is pretty much the order of the day for everyone (it is an extremely complicated thing, but true free will doesn't exist), yes.
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We're actually in agreement on the deterministic universe, at least for the most part, but Jeph is hardly an omnipotent being, even regarding his own creation. He's still affected by outside influences, even if he doesn't realize it (that's not a criticism, he's human).
Modified portion: Also, unrelated, but your avatar kicks all sorts of ass.
musicalsoul:
--- Quote from: reboundstudent on 11 Mar 2011, 15:40 ---Okay can we just please knock it off with the "oh if she just exercised and wore make-up she'd realize she's pretty!"
Sometimes... people are just ugly.
I consider myself very similar to Marigold. I have a "curvy"/fat body (bust: 35 1/2, waist: 32 1/4, and hips: 36 3/4, height 5" and weight 123), mousy brown hair and a large prominent nose. I've heard it ALL... that if I dressed better, wore make-up, smiled!, then suddenly I'd be beautiful.
Well I'm doing those things. I wear make-up every morning, I work out three days a week, I take a shower every day, wash my hair, wear it back from my face, have at least some semblance of style (jeans, blouse, and boots with some heel) and ya know what, I'm STILL not pretty. I STILL don't have guys paying attention to me or people treating me any differently than when I was ten pounds heavier in high school and thought a cup bra was some ancient torture device.
Sometimes, people are just ugly. You can make an ugly person passable, but ya can't make em pretty (not by societal standards, anyway.) Is it really low self esteem to point that out??
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I think it's low self-esteem to consider yourself ugly. That's just my personal opinion.
Whether you're beautiful by societal standards is totally irrelevant when it comes to how you feel about you. Everyone has a different definition of beautiful. You know, the whole beauty is in the eye of the beholder thing.
Everyone is beautiful in their own way. And the one thing that always helps make everyone a bit more beautiful is having confidence in their beauty. I didn't really figure that out until pretty recently. But, I honest to God, believe that everyone is beautiful, even if I'm not attracted to them. I can always find something that I think is pretty.
Mr_Rose:
--- Quote from: bicostp on 11 Mar 2011, 18:30 ---So creativity leads to schizophrenia, or is it the other way around?
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Very nearly all "mental disorders" are exaggerations of otherwise useful traits to one extreme or another. This is why they are so hard to treat; if they were genuine aberrations, complete excision would be a viable treatment, achievable with old-fashioned brute force & ignorance, but in the vast majority of cases what is required is mitigation to within "normal" or at least "acceptable" levels.
cabbagehut:
--- Quote from: reboundstudent on 11 Mar 2011, 15:40 ---Okay can we just please knock it off with the "oh if she just exercised and wore make-up she'd realize she's pretty!"
Sometimes... people are just ugly.
I consider myself very similar to Marigold. I have a "curvy"/fat body (bust: 35 1/2, waist: 32 1/4, and hips: 36 3/4, height 5" and weight 123), mousy brown hair and a large prominent nose. I've heard it ALL... that if I dressed better, wore make-up, smiled!, then suddenly I'd be beautiful.
Well I'm doing those things. I wear make-up every morning, I work out three days a week, I take a shower every day, wash my hair, wear it back from my face, have at least some semblance of style (jeans, blouse, and boots with some heel) and ya know what, I'm STILL not pretty. I STILL don't have guys paying attention to me or people treating me any differently than when I was ten pounds heavier in high school and thought a cup bra was some ancient torture device.
Sometimes, people are just ugly. You can make an ugly person passable, but ya can't make em pretty (not by societal standards, anyway.) Is it really low self esteem to point that out??
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Honestly, I sort of agree. I don't look anything like Marigold, but sometimes... you're just sort of unfortunate-looking. I think the storyline here is that Marigold is voluntarily that way, and she could change it, but she's not in the camp that believes it can be.
My mom jokingly threatens to put me on What Not To Wear, which is why I love Marigold's response. People act like the cancer's gone into remission because their mom put on a dress and got her hair cut. While I can understand the value in dressing nicely and feeling good about yourself, it's really image-centric and that just bothers me. It feels like there's so much pressure on women to "take care of themselves" (read: dress nicely and wear makeup and stuff) in order to feel good. Maybe because I AM jealous, who knows?
Is it cold in here?:
Faye notices the gender difference in appearance standards.
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