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WCDT 7-11 March 2011 (1876-80)
cannoli:
Apologies in advance if anyone finds the forcefulness of my words offensive, and no I have not read the thread, and yes Jeph has the absolute right to write his comic any way he wants, but:
I CALL BULLSHIT.
I am a smart person, a compassionate person, I am caring and forgiving and possess a decent, if quirky, sense of humor. I am also ugly. No matter how I change myself with makeup or clothing to fit other people's perceptions, I am still ugly. Because of this, no guy has ever or will ever consider me a candidate for anything resembling romance or a relationship. I can get laid, sure; but that is not relevant to the point. I am ugly, and no one, NO ONE, ever looks beyond the surface to the inner self, or any of that other crap that Hollywood and idealistic idiots like to sell - people fall in love with pretty people, period.
And before anyone plays the self-esteem card: I am perfectly fine with myself, thank you very much. I know who I am and what I'm worth, and if the rest of the world is unable to realize that an ugly face has nothing to do with my value as a person, that is entirely their problem. I'm not angry or hostile about the fact that no one will ever fall in love with me - only with yet another iteration of the same old tired meme that "looks don't matter" and that ugly can somehow become "pretty" with anything less than extensive plastic surgery. I've long since come to terms with the fact that any sort of romantic relationship is completely off the table for me, and I've learned to be content with that. For me, friendship will have to suffice... and to be honest, it's in no way an inadequate substitute; many if not most of my friendships are far more intimate than a whole lot of the relationships and marriages I've witnessed will ever be.
Everyone likes to believe that things like "true love" are fair, and based on a person's heart instead of their looks, and that the underdog has some chance of winning the Hollywood ending. In point of fact, that does not happen. I would be delighted with this storyline and the fact that FINALLY someone is spouting the uncomfortable but very real truths involved, were it not for the accompanying editorial comments that seem to me to be indicating that yet another typical reveal is in store. Which, if it comes to that, will be the one thing that will make me turn away from the comic permanently. Suspension of disbelief is one thing - insulting my intelligence is quite another.
I am certain that there are many who will disagree with my statements. I am equally certain that none of those people are or have ever been ugly, nor have ever fallen in love with or even considered dating an ugly person. I have lived with this face for over four decades, and I know whereof I speak. That is all.
themacnut:
It would be interesting if it turned out that Marigold really ISN'T attractive and has to find something else to base her self-esteem on, and learn to live with the fact that she'll never be in a romantic relationship because of that. But I don't think Jeph is going that way with Marigold.
The way she's presented in the comic, Marigold isn't hideous. She isn't conventionally attractive either, but all she's really going to need (again, based off the way she's being presented in the comic) is to put more time and care into her appearance and hygiene, and spring for some more flattering clothes. Plastic surgery would be overkill for her, even with her impressive nose.
bicostp:
--- Quote from: cannoli on 12 Mar 2011, 10:51 ---And before anyone plays the self-esteem card: I am perfectly fine with myself, thank you very much. I know who I am and what I'm worth, and if the rest of the world is unable to realize that an ugly face has nothing to do with my value as a person, that is entirely their problem.
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This is the key, right here. You're confident with who you are, Marigold has never been written that way. Her appearance is one attribute she's unhappy with, and changing it may or may not help her self esteem.
jwhouk:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 11 Mar 2011, 18:08 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 11 Mar 2011, 08:14 ---... Marigold doesn't have any actual free will here (she is going to do exactly what Jeph makes her do), though.
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Creative people on good days report that it feels as though their characters have free will and do things the authors weren't expecting, at least not consciously.
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Example: Faye's reaction to Dora kissing Marten way back. See the liner notes on 566.
StevenC:
--- Quote from: cannoli on 12 Mar 2011, 10:51 ---I am ugly, and no one, NO ONE, ever looks beyond the surface to the inner self, or any of that other crap that Hollywood and idealistic idiots like to sell - people fall in love with pretty people, period.
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Well, then I'm not a person I guess. The girl I love would be by all means considered ugly by the majority of people. But guess what? I don't give a damn. I love her because she is an awesome person.
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