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WCDT 14 Mar-18 Mar 2011 (1881-1885)

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Odin:

--- Quote from: mary tyler murder on 14 Mar 2011, 19:11 ---
Things well-adjusted people don't do: refuse to pursue romantic relationships because the person they want to pursue it with might offend their friends.
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Fixed this one for you.


--- Quote ---Things well-adjusted people do: Dump piles of words on the internet calling people fucked up in the head for not living in abject fear of offending their friends by dating someone their friends don't want them to.
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Fixed again, since the post I was responding to was about twice as long as the one you quoted there.


--- Quote ---I mean I just wanna make sure I'm clear how this all works now.

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Hope that helps.

And I just want to single this bit out and thank IanClark for demonstrating so perfectly why it is so fucked up from my perspective that people are seriously arguing as if there is an "all exes of friends are off limits unless and until the friend is okay with it" law of relationships that should be adhered to.


--- Quote from: IanClark on 14 Mar 2011, 21:43 ---This is why people constantly ask how their ex is doing, particularly if they're the one who got dumped. In a way, they want them to hurt. As long as they're not complete dicks, they don't want their ex to be miserable, but they do want him or her to have a sore spot in their psyche from the breakup. It seems like a really selfish sentiment but if you examine it it's not. When someone breaks up with you, they're rejecting you, one way or another. When you hear that they're still hurting inside, it means that they really did love you and even though they're rejecting you, they're not doing it out of an unfavourable opinion of you or because they latently hate your guts. It means that you were something so special to them that they haven't been able to rationalize the idea of making their life alright without you. When they start dating someone else, the metaphorical boom is dropped. They've done it. They've come up with a way to be content without you. It's an entirely new experience, because the way our society is built, we're taught to believe that true love is forever, meaning the love you thought you shared wasn't really "true love". I genuinely have no idea if I believe that or not, but there's at least some grain of truth to it. There's a lot of layers to it, most notably the uncertainty that comes from having to believe that you weren't able to tell that your love wasn't real, and wondering if you'll ever know for sure since you just turned out to be so wrong when you were so certain.
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Do any of you not see how screwed up a person has to be for this quote to actually apply? That is a pretty abusive attitude to have about the people you date.


--- Quote ---This is why I do believe that you should ask permission to date a friend's ex, only if you'd be the first one to date them since your friend. You're not just asking for permission to be with a person, you're asking for permission to be the one to shatter your friend's perception of what the relationship they had was. You're asking permission to be the one to send them into that period of doubt and what's almost the second breakup. It has nothing to do with being possessive over a person, it has everything to do with the consequences of being the one to force your friend to come to terms with something they may not be ready to do yet. Sure they'll have to eventually, but if it was someone else, they could put the face of their anger and dejection on a complete stranger. Instead, they're putting it on a friend.
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If this is true of the vast majority of people out there, we are a world of people in desperate need of therapy because this is a really fucked up outlook on life that requires validation from every ex you have to let you know that you're worth loving.


--- Quote ---Odin, we're already in an argument in another thread, so I don't want to seem like I'm dogging you personally and deliberately, but I think I can shine some light into this situation.
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You've been helping a lot to illustrate my points in the quotes above, yes.


--- Quote ---Personally, I'm not offended by the fact that you don't think it's inappropriate behaviour to ask out a friend's ex because clearly, in your social circle, it isn't. Maybe you guys are just less sensitive than the people arguing with you, and that's not a bad thing or a good thing. It all has to do with how much value you place in the concepts of love, friendship, possession, and so on and also in how you deal with a breakup. There's nothing wrong with that. No one gets too deeply involved, no one gets hurt.
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Going to stop you there and say that it has nothing to do with "not getting deeply involved", but failing to get over past relationships reveals some severe codependency issues and you have to admit that is a huge red flag for a need to seek therapy. It is a pretty well established point in psychiatric circles that codependency is a huge deal and not normal or healthy, are you and others on here disputing this?

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For today's comic, I could see that model of espressosaurus being marketed as a kids toy (anyone remember the Dino-Riders?).

Elysiana:
Codependency... you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Elysiana:
Also the Dino-Riders were awesome. Then I tried watching them (on VHS) a few years ago and went "How did I like this??" Of course I also did that with Transformers, He-Man, and Thundercats.

Black Sword:

--- Quote from: tbones on 14 Mar 2011, 11:44 ---
--- Quote from: Black Sword on 14 Mar 2011, 11:20 ---I really hope Jeph surprises me and doesn't do what I think he's going to do. I'd be fairly disgusted if he did.

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Uhm...

What do you think he is going to do??? :P

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Sorry for the delay in responding, didn't really check in after my post yesterday. What I'm afraid he'll do is that he'll hook up Tai and Dora (nothing wrong with lesbian relationships, so anyone who wanted to try to flame me over that can kiss my other cheek), then have Marten find out and then...no consequences. I'm weary of Saint Marten of Reed, who lacks anger, a backbone, or any ability to selfishly pursue something he wants, to get angry and lash out, to do something. "Oh, if it makes you happy" la di da the rest. If Tai and Dora hook up, I want to see him react instead of just burying it all. Quit his job! Tell them off! Grow a backbone and express displeasure! Something!

Moving away from that, I am loving the espressosaurus. Faye, can I have one, please?

Though now that I think about it....if the reason it's launching the neck and head is because of too much pressure, that means there's a design flaw somewhere. Judging from the comic, it seems there's too much heat and steam built up, and nowhere for it to go but out. I'd guess that if she added vents to give the steam a place to go...

...am I really discussing engineering on a comic forum?

Odin:

--- Quote from: Elysiana on 15 Mar 2011, 08:04 ---Codependency... you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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I know exactly what it means (it used to be limited to relationships where people refuse to abandon abusive people, but has expanded to also include the abusers), just because the person isn't actively in a relationship at the time they're exhibiting that horrible behavior doesn't mean they magically no longer fall under the definition.

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