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DSL:
I get why someone might not "like" Faye or any other character, but I'd call her an important character for any number of reasons -- half of the relationship, for example, around which much of QC was based at the start. We Americans seem to need to "like" the characters in our stories, so even the champion puppy-kicker of all time has to have some sort of redeeming quality. I remember a handful of 1980s British TV comedies that made it onto American cable channels for a while -- something named "Shelley" and, of course, Patsy and Edina of "Absolutely Fabulous" come to mind -- whose appeal as characters were built around their absolute lack of appeal as people. Before that, John Cleese's Basil Fawlty was thoroughly unlikeable as a person, though brilliant as a character in a story. But I don't want to confuse with "like-ability" with a character's importance to a story.
Would I like having a Faye around me in real life? Can't always say yes. Would QC as a story suffer from her absence? I think so.

questionablecontentfan:
Part of me feels like I should excuse it because of what happened to her, and also a bit hypocritical because I can be the same way (but not out loud like she is), but still. When she called Hannelore "crazy" and trampled over Marigold's feelings, and led Marten on, and threw Pintsize against a wall, threatening to bash her sister's head in, calling Raven dumb...it just gets really old after awhile. I just can't stand her. I don't think she's really gotten that much nicer. A girl who was sarcastic and occasionally mean who was even slightly less irritating than Faye would have been nice.

And the way she didn't want Marten with any other girls while leading him on? Yeah. That was a great example of why I do not like her.

I know my opinion isn't popular, but that's not really the point. :)

Carl-E:

--- Quote from: questionablecontentfan on 07 Apr 2011, 12:30 ---And the way she didn't want Marten with any other girls while leading him on? Yeah. That was a great example of why I do not like her.

--- End quote ---

It's also a great example of why she needed (and got) help.  Even she  knew it was an effed up thing to do. 

Can't say that for a lot of real life people. 

And, as a character, she may well have the largest amount of positive growth; she has  gotten less violent, she is  less callous towards her friends, and is much more stable than she was before, not to mention finally  being able to connect with another person. 

Nice?  Hell no, she's a barista. 

A good character in the story? 

Hell  yeah!

Is it cold in here?:
"Barista" is an anagram for "is a brat".

Criticism of Faye is well grounded, but I can't agree that she has no redeeming qualities. Her crowning moment of awesome was selfless, brave (how many people would talk like that to their boss?), and loyal to both of the parties to the breakup.

questionablecontentfan:
But her criticism of Dora is somewhat hypocritical (I thought), given how she herself treated Marten in the past. At least Dora gave Marten a chance and didn't lead him on. And interestingly enough, Faye was kinda the reason they broke up.

I'm not gonna pretend that Marten didn't act like an idiot about it for a long time (he did), but what Faye did was plain messed up.

I do think the comic could be fun and go on fine without Faye. Just because she is occasionally nice or occasionally sees the error of her ways doesn't mean she has any redeeming qualities.

I am going against the grain here, but I like Penelope. She's smart, funny and interesting, in my opinion. Also, she was so sweet to Wil when he had no clue how to ask her out. She gets picked on for being shy, which is something I can totally relate to. I'd be in favor of getting rid of Faye and developing Penelope's character more. :D

And I think Wil is adorable.

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