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LITURGY is fixing heavy metal, and there's nothing you can do to stop them
KvP:
Not that I found :(
--- Quote from: SWOON! at My Gravitas on 06 Apr 2011, 16:01 ---I heard their new album last night coincidentally, they play with a remarkable amount of energy and their drummer is pretty great but Jesus ass-Christ I don't know if I've heard black metal that's any more pointlessly meanderingbracingly transcendent in my life
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ftfy
Just give it time. You'll be a real heavy metal fan before you know it!
David_Dovey:
One of the problems with Liturgy is that (musically) there's nothing they do that isn't also done by many, many other bands who also, in addition to those things, do other, more interesting things as well, and without being laughably smug pseudo-intellectual hipster dipshits about it.
The other problems are pretty self-evident so I don't feel the need to go into them here.
David_Dovey:
Also:
I've noticed that a lot of people get really offended when I call them "hipsters" or imply that they might be hipsters ans that always baffled me a bit because I genuinely self-identify as a hipster and the term does not bother me in the slightest. Moreover I naturally assumed that a great deal of the people on here that I admire felt more or less the same, or at least pretty nonchalant about the whole thing, and it surprised me that there is actually a lot of really strong negative reaction to being labelled with the term.
To me the term "hipster" really only implied a strong and -whether pointedly or not- anti-mainstream aesthetic sense and an interest or natural inclination towards a worldview largely informed by post-modernist theory. It turns out I'm totally in the minority in holding this definition, and the reason that there were these crossed wires between me and the people who were genuinely offended at the label was because to them (and most), being a hipster implied, among several other distasteful traits, a casual appropriation of sub-cultural signifiers with no notice paid to underlying ideological or aesthetic context, and an extremely superficial and fickle engagement with matters of art and taste.
As it turns out, I've been completely wrong about what a hipster is and what it means to be a hipster. I'm not a hipster, Liturgy are hipsters. And although we may seemingly have a lot in common, based on shared interests, the difference lays entirely in motivation.
I'm sorry if I've called you a hipster, anybody. I now realise what an egregious thing that is to do, and it took Hunter Hunt-Hendrix to do it.
You are probably not a hipster! You probably like the things you like because you like them!
Inlander:
I'll only accept it if you call me an angel-headed hipster.
KvP:
At this point, in the wider world, the term "hipster" is more or less a more polite term for "fag". The only solid defining characteristics I can glean from its seemingly random use are negative - that is, hipsters are defined by what they're not. And generally, what they're not is typically masculine - thin, fashionable, given to unapolagetic outre tastes, listens to "sensitive music", went to college, doesn't have a real job. Might as well be a fag. There are better, potentially useful definitions - you have to have some sort of term for someone who seems unusually and insincerely preoccupied with affectations and social signifiers (ie the classic buddy-holly-glasses-sans-lenses and finger moustache tattoos [remember those?]) - but hardly anyone seems to use it outside of "geek who I don't like" contexts.
That said, it doesn't seem to me as though Hunt-Hendrix is insincere. Quite the contrary, he really truly believes his own hype, and the veracity / potency of his music as philosophical text. That's less hipsterism than it is good old-fashioned megalomania.
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