Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 25-29 Apr 2011 (1911-1915)
Mr_Rose:
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--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 29 Apr 2011, 14:57 ---Edit: @LoveJaneAusten; where are you getting "Partner choices: Recruiting straight women preferred" from exactly? Which straight woman do you think Tai is recruiting here? Or if you don't think that's what she's doing, why did you mention it?
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I did, actually. I pointed out that Tai attempts to strip Faye. I think she actually has hit on Faye before, but I don't even know where in the archives to look. Oh, for a search function...
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And again, what particular of this indicates that she is attempting to 'recruit' Faye? A woman she's shown no physical interest in beyond as a heat source?
As opposed to a panicked "oh shit that could be construed as flirting and I'm not ready for Dora to know about my crush, how do I balance this out?" reaction gone horribly wrong?
LoveJaneAusten:
--- Quote from: Tergon on 29 Apr 2011, 15:58 ---I could not agree more that the common portrayal in media of homosexuals in general is negative. I further agree that this is a bad thing. I just... don't agree that what we're seeing here is an example of that. Tai's a well-written and fairly harmless character who took her top off. She also happens to be a lesbian. The two things don't have to be related, nor does a connection need to be drawn when that clearly wasn't the author's intent.
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Tai did more than take her top off; she also tried to take Faye's top off. I find that to be a troubling example of a sex-obsessed lesbian. Whether Jeph intended to make her a stereotype or not, or being unwilling to see the connection between Tai's example and a host of common characterizations of gays and lesbians in the media, doesn't change the fact that she is. Alone, she would be a harmless character. In a greater media context, she serves as a further entrenchment of lesbian stereotypes. I don't think that this is what Jeph intended, personally, but it is there, irrespective of intention.
--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 29 Apr 2011, 16:19 ---And again, what particular of this indicates that she is attempting to 'recruit' Faye? A woman she's shown no physical interest in beyond as a heat source?
As opposed to a panicked "oh shit that could be construed as flirting and I'm not ready for Dora to know about my crush, how do I balance this out?" reaction gone horribly wrong?
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There really is no denying that Tai is often shown trying to instigate encounters with straight women, or women she believes to be bi or gay.
LoveJaneAusten:
--- Quote from: tender on 29 Apr 2011, 16:25 --- Some friends are comfortable being naked or teasing or undressing each other, and some aren't. That's the point. It's a strip that reveals each character's comfort zones, not "harmful to perceptions of lesbians and gays."
What kind of questionable content, then? Again, considering the circumstances, I'm curious what wouldn't result in a critical reaction. Is this only a bad thing because Tai's gay? Because Tai's gay and Faye's straight? What if Faye was gay and Tai was straight, or if they both were of the same orientation? Would any of these be negative portrayals of stereotypes? How can you safely portray a topless Tai interacting with Dora and Faye without crossing the boundaries of your harmful perceptions? I can think of a lot of things Tai could do to live up to terrible stereotypes, but this situation still doesn't fit in my mind as terrible or egregious or symptomatic of a greater societal problem ^^
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The strip is definitely about comfort zones. This doesn't mean it doesn't participate in perpetuating harmful stereotypes of lesbians in media. It wouldn't be hard at all to have a character like Tai not be a stereotype! All Jeph would have to do is not assign her lesbian cliches and show her actively destabilizing common media myths about lesbians. So far, she hasn't functioned for that very much at all, as far as I can tell. She really is a lot like a caricature in many ways. Not all ways, but many.
--- Quote from: tender on 29 Apr 2011, 16:39 ---See, comments like these are why it's hard for me to understand you, and why I say you're jumping to conclusions. Taking off a friend's top ≠ sex-obsessed lesbian in my mind!
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Tai is hypersexualized in QC. That's one of her prime character traits. Trying to take Faye's top off is only one example.
tomart:
--- Quote from: Tergon on 29 Apr 2011, 04:59 --- Today's comic is... actually pretty standard, for her. And if you've never had that one crazy friend who pulls shenanigans at every turn - maybe not at this standard, but stil
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People are different, some more than others... it's part of the fun of life, and webcomix
--- Quote from: Tergon on 29 Apr 2011, 04:59 --- - then all I can say is that you must live in a very open-minded monastery to allow you free internet access like this.
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One of The BEST. LINES. EVAR. !!!! :angel:
shiroihikari:
Nudity and sexuality aren't exactly the same thing. Related, yes, but not the same.
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