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WCDT 25-29 Apr 2011 (1911-1915)
DSL:
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--- Quote from: cesariojpn on 03 May 2011, 04:17 ---I'm calling BS, i couldn't find the strip where Jeph is contemplating on resorting to crass methods to garner more page views.
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I don't remember what you're talking about from that description, but clicking on the wiki link from the earlier google search and searching for Jeph's name on the page leads to 1236. Is it something else, or a guest strip?
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I'm not going to go dragging thru the archives to find the strip number, but it's a guest strip in which Jeph is directed by the "webcomics illuminati" to get on with the sexin' and watch the traffic climb. One assumes the intent is satire, the chief danger of which is that someone is going to be stupidly, and loudly, literal about it.
DJRubberducky:
--- Quote from: SJCrew on 30 Apr 2011, 05:41 ---In my comic, I'm going to make a homosexual serial killer the main character. I hope that doesn't offend any gay males who do not personally subscribe to the act of shanking.
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Been done.
tomart:
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 02 May 2011, 21:32 ---
--- Quote from: Boomslang on 02 May 2011, 20:33 ---I hate to be the one who says 'just wait it out', but I genuinely feel that as long as this battle takes, the people on the right side of history are guaranteed the win in the long run.
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Ridiculous. The "right side of history" will not be the same in a hundred years as in two hundred. And if you were living in the sixties or seventies, you might have made the same prediction, or even predicted that socialism would have taken over, and yet here we are. Relying on this kind of teleological argument is almost as insane as relying on God.
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I believe that, all else being equal, the more intelligent, enlightened view does generally, over time, prevail, in most places, especially with open communication. But here in the US, there are rich and powerful conservatives who generously fund radical fundamentalists, and we liberals have to "accomodate" medieval beliefs alongside modern science. For examples, evolution is being actively fought, and Al Gore's sincere efforts to warn us about global warming are met with vicious, mocking attacks. Conservative Talk Radio, in my opinion, is a curse on my country, and unfortunately succeeds in manipulating many to vote against their own (and my!) interests.
/rant
Akima:
--- Quote from: Boomslang on 02 May 2011, 20:33 ---I hate to be the one who says 'just wait it out', but I genuinely feel that as long as this battle takes, the people on the right side of history are guaranteed the win in the long run.
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In the long run, as Keynes famously pointed out, we are all dead. There is no right side to history, no victories are guaranteed, and battles are not won by waiting them out. If someone says "wait it out" to me, I hear "I am quite comfortable with the status quo thank you; stop making a fuss". Those who live their lives subject to abuse and legal discrimination should not be asked to be patient, especially by those who don't.
--- Quote ---There is definitely such a thing as hurting your own side's position based on the manner in which you engage in argument, and I wish people could recognize that dividing line.
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Maybe there is, but in my experience this argument is usually just another variation on "Oh, shut up!". Generally people have an extremely low tolerance for hearing things that make them uncomfortable, and saying anything at all about social bias and discrimination that they do not themselves experience, will quickly garner accusations that one is "shrill", "counter-productive", or "always going on about it".
Is it cold in here?:
There is a "right side" to history if there are universal standards of ethics or morals. That is of course a matter of long-running philosophical debate, and of course even if you agree with it the good guys don't always win (Stalin comes to mind as an example of bad guys winning).
I do believe in progress, maybe because I'm American and that belief is part of the culture I grew up in.
Gay rights need to be fought for, but the fighters can take some comfort in knowing that on that particular issue demographics promise that they will prevail.
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