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Does Marten have goals?
dragontart:
--- Quote ---Nobody is talking about societal status here, we're talking about Marten having zero desire to actually live
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What "actually live" means is defined by the the opinion of the majority of the society you currently live in. I do not find most of the things suggested here (wanting/pursuing something in general, family, doing band-stuff for a living, etc.) automatically mean/equal "actually living", but as said I do know that the majority does think so. That does not automatically make it desirable for some others, and maybe also not for Marten, [following is to be disproven] since he never actually said why he might be unhappy.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: rje on 10 May 2011, 07:16 ---I don't know if the band he was trying to start even did anything but hang out and talk about the kind of music they should try to play. Did they have any gigs? Did they write any songs? Did they even get together more than a handful of times?
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Gigs no, compositions yes. There were a bunch of instrumental pieces about unicorns.
Marten has comfort, but that's not the same as happiness. He's bored with the library job. He's missing out on what's been defined as the essence of happiness, the exercise of vital powers in pursuit of excellence.
pwhodges:
Actually, we have no idea whether or not Deathmøle is keeping Marten actively interested, or if he still writes his blog Yelling about Music (even though Jeph dropped it in real life). The fact that Jeph is considering doing some strips on Deathmøle implies that the band is still going on in some form in the background. Remember that we only get to see a very selectively edited part of Marten's (or any other character's) life; and a cartoon life, at that, with very different rules from real life in some areas (anthro-PCs; Vespabot; private space stations), so that any serious discussion is flawed from the outset by lack of information.
ChicagoTed:
I know I wouldn't mind a life like Martin's right now. I'm working my ass of in academia so that in the future I can work my ass off even more in academia. I feel like it'd be nice to just coast for a year or two, which I what I feel like Martin is doing (considering the QC timeline is about that long). Sometimes its nice not to have any major goals. And whether or not Martin is happy about it, well that ambiguity is what gives that aspect of his character depth, isn't it?
Odin:
--- Quote from: dragontart on 10 May 2011, 10:56 ---
--- Quote ---Nobody is talking about societal status here, we're talking about Marten having zero desire to actually live
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What "actually live" means is defined by the the opinion of the majority of the society you currently live in.
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Not really, what with these things having been discussed in pretty excruciating detail with similar conclusions being reached by every society since the old Persian empire.
--- Quote ---I do not find most of the things suggested here (wanting/pursuing something in general, family, doing band-stuff for a living, etc.) automatically mean/equal "actually living", but as said I do know that the majority does think so. That does not automatically make it desirable for some others, and maybe also not for Marten, [following is to be disproven] since he never actually said why he might be unhappy.
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Marten bitches almost incessantly about being unhappy when he isn't making hipster quips or being the butt of humor for Jeph.
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