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Should Dora go out with Jim?
Is it cold in here?:
Please clarify: self-image too high, or too low? Do you mean "self-esteem"?
Tiogyr:
Too low. Marten doesn't have a very high opinion of himself at all and people that are like that tend to suck terribly in pretty much any relationship they get into.
pwhodges:
Just saying "the first 500 strips" and "every time he opens his mouth" is not useful. An example of what you deem to be specifically expressive of low self-esteem would be more interesting. I pressed Random a few times to see; these are the first four which had Marten in: 278 476, 646, not much low self-esteem there, I'd say; 1100, OK he's a bit down there, but I'd hardly say it was pathological given the context.
stoutfiles:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 14 Jun 2011, 09:50 ---Just saying "the first 500 strips" and "every time he opens his mouth" is not useful. An example of what you deem to be specifically expressive of low self-esteem would be more interesting. I pressed Random a few times to see; these are the first four which had Marten in: 278 476, 646, not much low self-esteem there, I'd say; 1100, OK he's a bit down there, but I'd hardly say it was pathological given the context.
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Low self esteem traits:
Excessive will to please - Marten is the A-typical nice guy who puts up with things he shouldn't
Floating hostility - Complains about his problems to multiple people, gets very pissed sometimes.
Hypersensitivity to criticism - Marten has never took criticism well.
Chronic indecision - Marten isn't one to take initiative on anything.
Most of the QC cast have low self esteem.
Tiogyr:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 14 Jun 2011, 09:50 ---Just saying "the first 500 strips" and "every time he opens his mouth" is not useful. An example of what you deem to be specifically expressive of low self-esteem would be more interesting. I pressed Random a few times to see; these are the first four which had Marten in: 278 476, 646, not much low self-esteem there, I'd say; 1100, OK he's a bit down there, but I'd hardly say it was pathological given the context.
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Yeah, I hit random four times and come up with 11, 37, 520 and 105 (all but the last one being relevant to what I was saying, with the last one pointing to some pretty big red flags as to where Dora's issues may be coming from). The point is that anyone that has actually been reading the comic is aware that Marten has pitiful self-esteem/image and would be a terrible friend "in the real world" (but everyone knows someone like him and they always feel sorry for the poor bastard because his life genuinely sucks).
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