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Should Dora go out with Jim?

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wrwight:

--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 15 Jun 2011, 08:40 ---
This entire argument debunked in a single comic (considering it was Dora that initiated the dating and not Marten).

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But, but..the soup! What about the soup?

Seriously though, on the topic of Marten having low self-image, I think we all tend to put our own personal spin on fictional characters, especially in a setting such as this comic where a) there's entirely too much RL time to over analyze what's going on in comic time, and b) You don't always get to see what the characters are thinking or know their motivations. I think that's one of the reasons this comic is so popular though, since we can each read into it what we want, and therefore we get a sense that we "understand" the characters more so than if Jeph were to spell it all out for us (plus that would make the comic timeline drag on to the point of ridiculousness).

As to his being a pushover with low self esteem, I think there's enough evidence to the contrary (1098, 147 & 148, 1203, 1006, etc.) that it would be difficult to put him into such a simple box. My personal spin transfers aspects of myself onto Marten (since he's commonly seen as the "every-man" character I'd say a lot of us do that), but I see him as kind of a contradiction. He knows he's a pretty good guy, comparatively, but he still doesn't think he's good enough in many situations. I think he has a pretty good self-image, though.

Anyway, more on topic, I think this Jim thing is going to flame out pretty quickly, at least if he doesn't do something quick. He isn't off to the best of starts (not the worst either, I suppose).

idontunderstand:
"Crippling self-doubt" seems to describe someone who can't look himself in the mirror or get out of bed in the morning. The hyperbole is thick as always..

Tiogyr:

--- Quote from: idontunderstand on 22 Jun 2011, 01:22 ---"Crippling self-doubt" seems to describe someone who can't look himself in the mirror or get out of bed in the morning. The hyperbole is thick as always..

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Only if you're being deliberately obtuse, because if someone is having difficulty functioning due to their self-doubts then it is, in fact, crippling (and Marten does have difficulty with it, he's always second-guessing himself).

guayec:

--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 22 Jun 2011, 03:27 ---
--- Quote from: idontunderstand on 22 Jun 2011, 01:22 ---"Crippling self-doubt" seems to describe someone who can't look himself in the mirror or get out of bed in the morning. The hyperbole is thick as always..

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Only if you're being deliberately obtuse, because if someone is having difficulty functioning due to their self-doubts then it is, in fact, crippling (and Marten does have difficulty with it, he's always second-guessing himself).

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Add to that Dora's doubts about Marten's true feelings and you have a smothering mountain of doubts!

Mmm, if Marten suffers a case of crippling self-doubt, does Dora suffer one of everyone-else-doubt? She's always second-guessing her friends.

pwhodges:

--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 22 Jun 2011, 03:27 ---if someone is having difficulty functioning due to their self-doubts then it is, in fact, crippling (and Marten does have difficulty with it, he's always second-guessing himself)
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I'm sorry, but I really can't see anywhere that Marten is having difficulty functioning.  Feeling sad from time to time is not the same thing.

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