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Should Dora go out with Jim?
questionablecontentfan:
Dora broke up with Marten because he had unresolved feelings for Faye. This won't be an issue with Jim.
I second the older men comment. There's just something...
There is the question of whether Dora actually feels any attraction to Jim. Maybe she does, but she hid it. Or maybe this incident will make her realize it. I don't know.
If she does date Jim, it won't make Tai very happy, that's for sure.
Emperor Norton:
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 11:30 ---Why does anyone give a damn what a given ex thinks re: starting to date other people? Dora shouldn't care how Marten feels about her dating someone else and Marten shouldn't be pining around waiting to talk to her about breaking up before he moves on with his life, either.
They broke up, there is no reason to keep dwelling on that fact or have any more talks about it coming up on two months down the road comic-time, is there?
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Because they still care about each other? Not in a together way, but they still do care about each others feelings. It may be different for me, because I've never done the CUT ALL TIES WITH YOUR EXES thing, and am friends with almost all of them still, but I care how what I do makes them feel, even if I think they are being irrational about it.
Now, as far as the whole Dora starting to date so soon after dumping Marten, its not about them breaking up, its WHY they broke up. From what she said, it wasn't that she didn't love him, it was that SHE COULDN'T FUNCTION IN ANY RELATIONSHIP. I don't know about you, but if a girl broke up with me claiming that, and then turned around and started dating again not long after... maybe its a bit irrational, but this is the moment that it would really hit that she isn't in love with me anymore. Breaking up and the feelings of love don't always end at the same time.
Elfa:
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 11:35 ---
Except, when you look at Dora and Marten's relationship, he was good for Dora, especially compared to Dora's ex boyfriends. 1746, Sven admitted that Marten was the first guy she ever dated that ever treated her kindly, respected her. In short Marten was the first healthy relationship Dora ever had. He was a step forward for her.
Then she broke up with him because of that simple fact, that Marten was a nice guy, with no ulterior motive, wasn't a douchebag, which raised a lot of questions for Dora about her, was she the reason that her other relationships were so bad? etc, etc. Granted, Marten was listless, about as assertive as a jellyfish on a beach, he wasn't perfect, but the fact that she broke up with him in a pre-emptive attempt to not be the one hurt here, speaks volumes about Dora's mind.
So imagine what would happen if we take Jim, who is presumably a nice guy (his staff don't talk about him behind his back), responsible and assertive (he'd have to be, in order to still have a bakery that was still open, and able to employ at least three people (we haven't scar-neck since that one panel)) ended up going out with Dora. He'd be like super-Marten, and Dora's mind would probably break down from the belief that Jim was so far out of her league.
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So are you saying that Dora simply used Faye as a means to act upon her insecurities with Martin rather than Faye being an actual catalyst? If that's the case then you doom Dora to a never ending loop of failed relationships, unable to ever be happy with anyone because she thinks she shouldn't be.
I would hate to see Dora stumble further down that road.
Emperor Norton:
Yes and no. I agree that her insecurities would have popped up with or without Faye existing.
But that doesn't mean she is fated to repeat it indefinitely. It means that she needs to deal with her issues (like she is currently trying to by going to therapy) BEFORE getting involved with someone else. I mean, I just don't see how she could get over relationship crippling insecurities in 2 months or however long its been since she started going to therapy.
TheEvilDog:
Where did it say that Marten had unresolved feelings for Faye? If anything, anything resembling a romantic relationship they could have had sank after Faye told Marten about her father's suicide. They went from being potentially knocking boots to best friends. The Toto moment cemented that, as did the comic with Marten "attacking" Angus, Scott Pilgrim style. The only one who ever felt there were unresolved issues between the pair was Dora. Thats one of the reasons Dora broke up with him.
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